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6 months old wont sleep through

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Mistiek · 21/09/2007 22:07

Hello,

I am not sure if this is normal or not but my Litte girl is now 6 months old and wont sleep through. I did not mind the 1 feed a night as it was all done in semi darkness with no talking or changing nappies etc. Its was just a feed and straight back to sleep. This is still the case however its now happening twice a night and as I am the one who gets up for night feeds (daddy has to be up at 4:30 for work) I am finding it really frustrating. My son was 3 months when he started to sleep through but she is so different.

I was very strict with Josh as I wanted no habits and it all worked out brilliantly. However with Paige its been so difficult as she was a difficult pregnancy, 2 weeks early C-sec and very colicy baby who would only settle in my arms. I have rocked her to sleep (something whcih we are now breaking the habit of with good results). I dont know if this has anything to do with the night feeds as she is still learning to put herself to sleep.

Last night (or at 4am this morning) I tried the water method and only gave her water to drink. She drank a bit and then started to settle so I would put her down and walk out. 5 min later she was crying again. After 40min I gave in as I am not feeling too well myself and could not struggle any longer....

Please help as I dont know what is the best method and the best way to get her to sleep though. My friend tells me to leave it but her 3 year old still gets up sometimes and her 1 year old is still waking up at night for a feed. I beleive habits start early and so I want to get her into a good routine like I did with my son.

Some advice now would be great as I really don't know what to do...
Thanks

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tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:23

Go ahead call ss! You might have a different view point but what proof do you have that you have done everything right. You are so self righteous and very up your own backside. I don't care what you think, you don't know me or how I am with the children. I can also say that I have no dissatisfied parents, infact I have had gifts from some of them because I made dramatic improvements to their children, especially with poor eating and sleeping habits. Obviously we will never agree and by your aggressive manor and stooping to a name calling post I can only assume that its you who has lost the plot!

UCM · 23/09/2007 00:24

Blimey Tori, how do you know it's 400 words or whatever, do you count.

I know what you were saying, that your child is totally normal, but do you really count her words.

Tip: never justify yourself on here, just assume that you are right or you will get fucked.

UCM · 23/09/2007 00:25

Moondog/Aitch, I still haven't given in and used jars, my friends think I am mad, but dd is 8 months now and blw and with natural stuff an all.

She does still drink quite a bit of milk, but I am not worried.

moondog · 23/09/2007 00:26

As your child is patently such a well behaved genius,I suggest you also ask her to give you a few basic spelling lessons (when she has a break between constructing the Eiffel Tower out of yoghurt pots and teaching herself Yiddish, that is.)

Bloody barking.
Barking I tell you.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:26

Absolutely! I don't function on no sleep so it benefits us both to sleep all night! Otherwise dd would be waking up to a mother who couldn't be bothered during the day, how would that benefit her?

moondog · 23/09/2007 00:27

(UCM,I can't believe babe is already 8 mths old! How mad is that!)

Aitch · 23/09/2007 00:29

is it that normal to go into a creche without a backward glance after only two visits? i dunno, dd isn't in child care.

thing is, tori, you can do whatever you like with your child, but you were being pretty dogmatic about what mistiek's baby should be able to do. and the whole CC thing at 12 weeks, well, it is advised against even by advocates of CC.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:29

Just pointing out that my child is as happy as the next, that my not pandering to her every whim has done no harm and that I will do exactly the same with dd/ds2

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:33

The op obviously would like her dd to sleep through or she wouldn't have posted. I merely suggested how I would go about achieving that. I said what has worked for me. Its a free country, speech is meant to be free on here isn't it? Top tip:- if you don't like it lump it.

moondog · 23/09/2007 00:34

Top tip

Stop giving out advice that is
a.)shit
b.) fucking dangerous
c.) stupid

Geddit????

Aitch · 23/09/2007 00:35

wow, tori, your causal leaps are amazing. i don't function on no sleep either, nor did i have to. dd slept for good stretches from 6 weeks and i didn't have to cruelly ignore her to teach her to do so.

thus, all babies are not the same. hence my point that you shouldn't be telling people so dogmatically what babies can and can't, and should and shouldn't do. there isn't a rule book.

isn't that cool, UCM, well done baby UCM. dd upped her food and never dropped milk feeds until about 13 months. i think the gist is that they just get better as they go along and then start to drop them. some younger, some older.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:35

UCM the word thing I did count until she was 18mths because they ask how many at the 18mth check. Then it was 250ish but she now says too many to count. 400 or whatever was a guess, could be many more.

Aitch · 23/09/2007 00:38

By tori32 on Sat 22-Sep-07 23:41:41
Oh moondog. I can vouch that babies as young as 6 weeks play the system, having watched dd squawking but not in the least distressed. i.e. no tears, no fist clenching, no writhing around in the cot, just pure I want you to give me attention now. Unfortunately, if you don't teach babies about day and night routines they don't just 'do it' as some people have you believe. 6mths is not tiny. They need to learn that night is for sleep not play or feeding. At 6 mths if they eat the correct type and quantity of solids (rarely enough in baby led weaning as Jojay said) they should be capable of sleeping through, unless they were premature, which changes things.

this is not simply a 'this worked for me, you could try it too' post. you are speaking as if you actually know what you are talking about. which i rather doubt.

UCM · 23/09/2007 00:40

Tori, I can't believe you count your baby's words. Fair play to you, but am astounded.

Aitch/MD, she loves her pulses, haricot beans and all that, but I do have to help a bit sometimes.

Aitch, I do find with letting her get on with it, we have to have loads more as she drops and throws a lot of it.

UCM · 23/09/2007 00:42

And who checks your baby at 18 months, by the way Tori? Genuine question?

DS wasn't checked by anyone, so who? Maybe I am missing out here.

UCM · 23/09/2007 00:44

Oh and Aitch check my profile, it's all there in the photos.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:46

Sorry what part of a baby crying is dangerous if he or she has been checked, clean, fed, some cuddles?
I think you will also find that jojay agreed with me so does that mean all the names you have called me apply to her as well?

Last point for the night is that I hope I never have to meet you in a professional capacity, as you sound obnoxious from the way you have been tonight. Don't particularly want to be on any thread you are on as you seem incapable of discussing instead, you just have a slanging matches and swear, very intelligent.

Aitch · 23/09/2007 00:49

yes i'm sure that's the case, UCM. i think if you want everythign to be tidy and neat then it's not the way to go. plus i did find myself extending the 5 seconds on the floor rule to the 30 second and then one minute etc...

having said that, i wonder if it all comes out in the wash, so to speak? because for the last while dd has really cracked using cutlery, hardly ever wastes anything and is a dream in cafes and restaurants etc. whereas i'd have to say, compared to our BLW chums, her wee pals who haven't been self-feeding for as long seem to be a lot messier. so you may gain in the longer term, who knows?

MrsJohnCusack · 23/09/2007 00:49

" I can vouch that babies as young as 6 weeks play the system"

I think this is one of the saddest things I have ever read

MistieK - my 6 month old isn't sleeping through either (he USED to grrrr) and I know it's annoying and exhausting but...

2 wakings to me doesn't necessarily mean they've got into 'bad' sleep habits as they're not waking every sleep cycle. Is she teething? that's what's scuppered my DS's sleeping and I am riding it out. They do have growth spurts too.

I've also noticed quite a few people saying they've been 'strict' with other children; quite often I think you tell yourself you've been strict whereas actually you've been lucky and therefore it was easy to be 'strict'. Have seen this with a few of my friends now on their second babies.

Do remember that babies aren't machines and you can't expect then to do exactly the same thing every night/sleep for the same amount of time/eat exactly the same every day/be the same as every other baby. My DS can sleep for 12 hours, he did it for 9 nights in a row, but that doesn't mean I'm going to ignore his needs when he wakes in the night now; clearly he needs something and with him, he's had a cold and the slowest ever teeth emergence so I'm not going to ignore him in the night (or let him wake up DD).

Try and stick to your routine by all means, but if it's becoming more stressful feeling that she should be in the routine than it is just feeding her and getting her back to sleep with a minimum of fuss, I know which I'd choose.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:49

UCM, they used to do an 18mth check but when I didn't get a reminder I rang the HV to check if I needed an appt, she said it was changed to 24mths instead. It was in my development book from the Drs.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:52

No Aitch this isn't a G and t thread My post wasn't intended as that, merely to prove that I haven't damaged my dd beyond repair

Aitch · 23/09/2007 00:53

lol at the photo, UCM, she's gorgeous. but a pelican bib would not go amiss i feel...

and it's funny, tori, but i really didn't feel that you and jojay were singing from the same hymn sheet. she seemed much, much more cautious with her advice.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:55

MrsJohnCussak I obviously would not leave a child ignored if clearly she was in pain, vomitted, teething, the cry of pain is different for that of wanting attention or anger. I know my child well enough to know the difference.

tori32 · 23/09/2007 00:58

'jojay 23.31 - tori I don't disagree with you- I just wanted to check....'

MrsJohnCusack · 23/09/2007 01:01

I really can't see what's wrong with a baby 'wanting attention' or being 'angry'. That's a need too, same as the more tangible ones of needing feeding/teething/illness etc.

We're not going to change your mind, I realise, but the idea that 6 week old babies are 'playing the system' is repugnant. IMO (and lots of other people's) of course.