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B***** Yu Gi Oh

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kkgirl · 17/09/2004 16:14

God

Can't stand it anymore.
Had crap day at work, pick kids up from school, DD wild because she has been invited on a sleepover, her first, next Friday and can't go as she is booked to go on Brownie Funday on Saturday and I have volunteered to go as well to help, so she's screaming at me.
DS's were swapping Yu Gi Oh cards, get home and ds2 asks ds1 for his cards, ds1 refuses saying that he swapped them with Matt and they are his. Ds2 has gone hysterical and I am tempted to throw the whole lot in the bin, all they do is cause arguments. Ds1 always manipulates it so he gets the best cards and I don't know which ones they had to start with, so I can't deal with it.

It is driving me round the bend!!!!!!!

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SoupDragon · 17/09/2004 16:16

Burn them all.

SoupDragon · 17/09/2004 16:16

The cards, obviously, not the children.

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kkgirl · 17/09/2004 16:21

I would love to do this, but know that it would be me who would be suffering. My ds2 is getting violent over the current situation, I can't believe anyone can get so uptight about the wretched things. He has been hysterical for about 10 mins, is still sobbing now!!

I think tonight when the boys are asleep I will remove all the cards that I can find, they are sure to hide some. We ended up having to do this with the Pokemon ones because it got so out of hand.

Crazy!!!!

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SoupDragon · 17/09/2004 16:29

DS1 (5) has just started wanting these. I'm dreading it when he gets into the "swapping" stage or when DS2 decides he wants hem to.

Twinkie · 17/09/2004 16:30

Lose your rag completey and rip one up that he has a double of - they may then see just how far they can push you and this is TOOOOO FAR!!!!!

JuniperDewdrop · 17/09/2004 17:21

Nooo don't rip one up lol

Ds1 (6) is into them too but refuses to swap them! He has tons the same for some strange reason. Thank goodness DS2 is too young to be bothered.

Maybe you could get them to have a little book each and jot down which they have? Then keep re logging as they swap. Can't think what else to do, sorry. It's awful when they have a meltdown. DS1 did it in front of some friends the other day and I was mortified, he was swearing and everything

KangaMummy · 17/09/2004 17:34

DS has just started being into them but I have not got a clue what he is talking about. He wants to buy a pack so he is saving up his pocket money. £6.99 for one pack

In his class if you win a duel you win all the other guys cards. I have told him I do not think that is fair and that he can't do that. One of the other boys has soooo many of them, his mum would be really angry if he had to give them away.

JuniperDewdrop · 17/09/2004 17:37

Oh dear KM, that sounds ominous. I'm feeling glad DS1 doesn't want to swap his now.

lou33 · 17/09/2004 17:37

My eyes glaze over and I start drooling when ds1 starts talking about them.

KangaMummy · 17/09/2004 17:47

I tell him he may as well talk in goobledegoob. They are all so excited about it. As soon as he sees his friends they run up to each other and start talking about "red eyed black dragon" or something like that. That is as far as my knowledge goes

tigermoth · 17/09/2004 19:02

lol lou33 - so do I!

we've had pokemon crazes and yu gi oh phases and it is so boring, but these things I have learned ....

never take cards to school. I am amazed any schools still allow these tbh. Too much risk of fighting and stealing.

Allow swaps only in moderation on playdates. Get an adult to ensure both parties are happy with the swap before it goes ahead if poss.

never throw away cards - even if the craze goes, it could come back (oldest son has had 3 pokemon crazes) and then you are stuffed

One really lovely positive thing that's come out of my son's craze is his great interest in drawing characters from the cards. The illustrations on some of the cards is really impressive anyway IMO. Last christmas I spent a couple of quid on Amazon buying him a how-to-draw book of 'dragonballs z' characters. It was the best present he had. He spent hours on them and his drawing skills really improved. I have never seen him try so hard with anything requiring pen and paper. He still draws them and also other things too - he likes drawing still life now. So that's something good about the craze.

I am lucky in that I don't have two boys close in age who bothlike these cards. I sympathise, with you, kkgirl. It must be hard work.

Cam · 17/09/2004 19:30

Thank god Barbie-swapping has never caught on!!!
(Girls don't seem to do the swap thing...)

zaphod · 17/09/2004 20:24

I had this exact problem last summer, and I did throw the whole lot in the bin, dspite the fact that ds1 had spent a lot of money on them. They were banned in school, but had already caused a lot of falling out between friends and in the end I just had to call a halt to it, because ds2 and ds1 were always fighting over them, and ds2 was getting conned.

TBH they were surprisingly good about the cards being thrown away, when it was explained to them, and ds1 could see how it was causing himself and his friends to fall out.

Once ds2 knew that ds1 wouldn't have them either, he was OK with it too.

Not that they didn't occasionally plead for me to relent.

roisin · 17/09/2004 20:32

Phew! We've escaped this one so far. I explained to ds1 a couple of years ago how expensive yu-gi-oh cards were, and how I thought they were a waste of money, but that if he chose to save up his pocket money and spend it on them instead of on Bionicles or books, then he could do.
For once it worked, and he took my advice on board.
At school about half the boys have yu-gi-oh cards, so it's not that he's completely isolated or anything. And he does have Top Trumps, which he takes to school to play with, and they don't have the disadvantages of swapping type cards.

KangaMummy · 17/09/2004 20:33

What do you mean DS2 got conned?

Do you mean that he ended up giving all his away?

That is what I am worried about either DS losing his or someone else giving theirs to him. Then regretting it.

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kkgirl · 17/09/2004 20:44

whats even worse is that the school have now come up with the idea of having a yu gi oh club for years 4 and 5.
Great DS1 is in Year 6 so now he is put out, and as for DS2 he has to mark up a tin to put his cards in and give them in to Deputy HT before school, blah, blah blah!!

Not only that its like a gambling den here in the evenings, packs of boys duelling all evening.

Oh well, at least they are off the streets!!!!!

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Goldfish · 17/09/2004 22:58

My ds2 is crazing me to go to Tescos tomorrow to get a pack of these cards with his pocket money. He is obsessed with the things. However I have heard rumours that the school is banning them from Monday. This is what ususually happens. Once parents start complaining because their child has lost all his cards to someone else the school then sends out a letter banning the things. It happened with crazybones, pokemon cards, Beylades. We still have all these things but no one wants them any more. I have told ds2 that he ought to wait until Monday to see what the school says, before he spends his money, but he just keeps going on and on and on and on ........

zaphod · 17/09/2004 23:13

Yes, ds2 got conned by older/wiser kids at school, before they were banned, and would trade a 'good' card, for a bad one, because he did'nt know any better. He also traded, on a promise that the other child would bring a card in the next day, but this never happened.

His brother also took advantage of him on occasion.

Trading cards are just bad news in my opinion.

Top Trumps on the other hand, seem harmless and are quite fun to play. My ds1 got hold of a Smash Hits one and asked "what do they mean by a phwoar factor?" When I told him he went "OOOH MUM,THAT'S DISGUSTING"

Currently he is in to the Simpsons and Football Top Trumps cards and he and his brother while away car journeys playing with these, and because it is a game, where no-one swaps cards, you just discover strange facts about football players/popstars/TVCharacters and pit them against one another's cards, it doesn't all end in tears.

Not yet anyway.

KangaMummy · 17/09/2004 23:25

My brother and I used to play Top Trumps we had trains. I can still remember the fastest train was japanese with an aeroplane shaped "nose". I think I will try to persuade DS that Top Trumps are a good thing.

Perhaps it will start a new craze

The really silly thing about Yu-gi-oh is that he will never watch on TV because he says the animation is so bad. The same with pokemon.

zaphod · 17/09/2004 23:30

That's very sophisticated of him to notice the bad animation, certainly it has never occurred to mine that the animation is so crap. They don't tend to watch either program anymore.

KangaMummy · 17/09/2004 23:44

I guess that has something to do with me showing him years ago about how good animation is made ie disney/pixar and then the cheaper ones when only their mouth moves or their eyes and they have jerky movements. This was ages before pokemon/yu-gi-oh.

So now without me saying anything he decides which cartoons are not that good and not worth watching.

IMHO there is a difference between finding nemo and sharks tail. The animation is of a different quality, obviously alot of time and money goes into a feature film like nemo. I feel that sharks tail has been rushed out to cinemas too quick. IYSWIM

zaphod · 17/09/2004 23:52

We haven't seen Sharks Tail yet - at least it's something we can all go to together. Ds2 has asked if we can see the Yu-Gi-Oh movie. Over my dead body. Unless I can persuade dh to take him.........

KangaMummy · 18/09/2004 00:00

One of DS friends told him yesterday that it was in the cinema but he didn't say oh yes can we go. We certainly will NOT be going.

The cards are bad enough hopefully the school will ban them soon.

The other thing I don't like is that they act out the characters by play fighting DS came home with a scratch down one cheek. We have school photos on Monday.

tigermoth · 18/09/2004 07:55

wow, I am so surprised people saying the schools allow children can take these things in. At both the big state primary with a playground problem, and the small church school with strict discipline standards, both schools attended by my son at different times, these cards are banned. Perhaps it's to do with the area I live in.....

Another thing I am reluctant to do is let my son take the cards if he plays out, especially if bigger children I don't know are around. When my son was younger, he let two big boys we didn't know look at his pokemon collection and they stole his most valuable cards. He has never forgotten it. And before the school banned them he had lots stolen there as well.

I was thinking of this more last night, and in some ways, ok it's boring to hear ds go on about these cards but also it makes me smile to listen to him repeat these complicated names and rules. I know it is an organised game and my son is not using his imagination as much as he could, but it gives him practice in absorbing complex information and following instructions. And what's more, he enjoys it. Now that can't be all bad, can it?

Also I think it's right in the grand scheme of things that I as a grown up don't fully approve or understand what fires his enthusiasm. My mother didn't always have much sympathy with my interests and crazes. Almost by definition IMO a childhood craze is something that parents aren't 100% crazy about. It's that element that's appealing to children and having a craze is part of the growing up, pulling away from parents process.

Marina · 20/09/2004 09:59

Wise Tiger! Ds (5) talks in a very uninformed but animated way about Yu Gi Oh and Megaman (?), as he has heard about them from older children at Breakfast Club. He also attempts to draw scenes with them in.
School has a strict ban on the cards and other rip-offs, thank goodness. I must admit it cracks me up to hear him piffle away about how his invisible best friend is the best dueller in the galaxy etc, and I really agree that the point of these tedious and infuriating crazes is that parents don't "get" them. We have a little ongoing joke about how if I can't get to sleep ds will come and tell me ALL about his take on Yu Gi Oh.
Just wish they grew out of it. Dh still pores over aeromodelling, train and fishing magazines. Erck!

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