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All thoughts on mini-PPHs excessive and knackering clinginess gratefully received...

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PrincessPeaHead · 22/04/2007 10:03

This may be long

MiniPPH (15 months) is clingy beyond belief, and it is getting to the stage where it is seriously hampering my ability to get anything done, my ability to do much with the other children, and my enjoyment of her. Which isn't good. And I don't understand why or what I can do about it (if anything), so I thought I'd tap into the combined wisdom of MNetters as I'm sure someone will be able to shine a light...

She has been pretty shy from a v early age, never really liked strangers, does that princess diana thing of no eye contact but peep under her eyelashes every so often to see if they are still there. Definition of strangers very wide and includes grandmothers if she hasn't seen them for a fortnight. Basically the people she feels comfortable with are those she sees every day - me, dh, children, nanny, cleaner and gardener. She loves all of those and is as demanding with them a she is with me.

At Xmas (11months) we had 20 people for lunch, all close family (grandparents, aunts uncles and cousins) and I spent most of it with her in a room by ourselves because she was so distraught at all of these people LOOKING at her and god forbid talking to her.

Now she is really only happy and content if one of the favoured adults is carrying her on a hip, or sitting right beside her as she plays. For short periods of time if she is in the middle of some interesting play she might allow you to get up and walk to the other side of the room to do something without screaming blue murder, but if you leave the room she goes mad.

She is a particular daddys girl and if I'm sitting beside her on the floor playing quietly and DH walks in, says something to me and goes away again she is INCONSOLABLE until he comes back and picks her up.

It has now got to the stage where if you are standing up with her on your hip and you dare to sit down (with her still on your lap), she goes bananas - screams, throws herself about, goes red in the face, tears - the MOMENT you stand up again it all switches off like a tap and she sits quietly with a slightly outraged expression on her face that you should have committed such a crime.

If you put her on the floor to do something (take a boiling saucepan off the floor, butter toast which you CAN'T do with a child on your hip) she screams, cries and often bangs her forehead on the ground. We have a stone floor in the kitchen and she often has big lumpy eggs on her head.

She is a big girl, can walk but gets hardly any practice because she insists on being carried. She weighs a ton and I now have sciatica quite badly, probably because my hip is thrown out all the time carrying her.

Basically I'm not enjoying her at this stage at all, it is very wearing on me and on the other three children who are effectively living with a tyrant ordering all the adults about despite their needs, and I really need to know
a) if there is anything I can do to manage her a bit to either make this stage more bearable or (holy grail) actually break this habit and/or
b) if it is just a stage, HOW LONG WILL IT LAST????

None of my others were like this at all and I don't think I've done anything differently with her. I don't leave babies to scream for anything - my modus operandi is to meet their needs and make them feel loved and secure but in my other three that actually made for happy little toddlers who were really independent and happy to do their own thing as long as they knew where you were (ie bird happy if you were in the same room albeit doing something dull like making lunch).

Please help!
Thanks for reading this far, my most epic post ever, in 4 years of mumsnetting

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expatinscotland · 22/04/2007 20:39

I think if you bought her some Croc's, it would take her mind off things and make her happy and perhaps she's using clinginess to communicate to you that what she really wants is a pair of Croc's.

Enid · 22/04/2007 20:39

mm gin

shall I have wine? dh back tomorrow and I had planned no wine until his return

but have a nice rose in fridge...

pouchofdouglas · 22/04/2007 20:40

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expatinscotland · 22/04/2007 20:40

It's a good night for chilled wine.

Gin is nasty. That bergamot just ruins it.

Enid · 22/04/2007 20:40

expat

you win

everything

(for saying the child in the second seat in the phil and teds was 'riding bitch')

pouchofdouglas · 22/04/2007 20:40

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Enid · 22/04/2007 20:41

wil go and investigatge

expatinscotland · 22/04/2007 20:41

I saw a child shoved into one of those P&T things the other day.

I felt so sorry for her.

She was practically clawing her way towards freedom.

I wanted to liberate her.

Enid · 22/04/2007 20:42

mmmm

NadineBaggott · 22/04/2007 20:43

hmmm don't know if my experience is quite the same but ds2 was a really clingy baby. I could be in the same room but if I disappeared from his eye shot all hell let loose.

We'd leave him, with dd and ds1 with grandparents whilst we went out at weekend and he'd scream blue murder but (and I know many of you will be horried) we used to say to tell him to calm down, he was with his ds and db and we'd be back and off we'd go with him still yelling inthe background.

He was always a sensitive soul, never liked a disagreement etc.

Fast forward to age 14 and a complete metamorphosis took place - he gadded about all over the place with his mates. Much more gregarious than his siblings and is now very laid back, easy to get on with and seems to be one of those folk that others just take to

basically I'm saying, 'don't sweat it'!

pouchofdouglas · 22/04/2007 20:43

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NadineBaggott · 22/04/2007 20:44

horrified as well as horried

expatinscotland · 22/04/2007 20:44

That looks a nice wine.

All I've got in the flat is a bottle of Aberfeldy whisky.

I don't much care for whisky, but desperate times and all . . .

NadineBaggott · 22/04/2007 20:44

I see this thread has moved on somewhat ,,,,,,,,

Enid · 22/04/2007 20:47

dd1 was horrific

basically hated everyone except me until she started school

from then on became steadily more confident and is now positively angelic

expatinscotland · 22/04/2007 20:48

DD2 is 16 months and very clingy.

I know it's not forever so just go with it.

My arms are aching, however, because she's a heavy lump.

fransmom · 22/04/2007 20:49

hi pph, have part of his with dd at the moment - the clingy thing (god i hate that c word) and the constant picking up). the only way i can get thru it at the moment is that, now she's v.nearly 2, she understands more about when someone has been hurt. she knows i have a prob with my shoulder and that it hurts sometimes. when she wants picking up, i tell her only for a short time and then she walks. it usually helps to limit the time, say to the nearest lamp post or similar. she's then usually pretty good at walking but then i have been taking the pushchair laong in case she gets tired and needs a "rest".

as for the clinginess, i am just kind of gritting my teeth. she is very much like your dc in front of strangers - even with her gf. i just have to tell him that he's not to take it personally and that she will be ok with him soon. luckily if he starts pulling faces with her most of the time she will start smiling at him. god knows what she will be like when she sees her once ina blue moon aunty next weekend who she sees about three times a year! (but hey, that's another story )

Enid · 22/04/2007 20:50

oh its so WEIRD that your baby and expats are only 15 and 16 months

dd3 is 12 months

I always think of your babies as much older than mine

expatinscotland · 22/04/2007 20:52

She's still very much a baby - those dimply hands and chubby bum.

Oooooo.

She's bitten DH a couple of times, though.

He's not been happy about that, but she's teething horribly.

DD1 never bit.

NadineBaggott · 22/04/2007 20:52

mine are - ds 2 is 30

oliveoil · 22/04/2007 20:52

dd1 was the same pph and, er, is quite hands on now , at 4

but lovely with it

she will sit on my knee etc when at parties and then tentatively move away (about a foot)

(she is the same as Enid's dd1 with whom I still need to compare notes)

I used to have a huge bag of plastic crap that I would upend on the floor if I wanted to do something thrilling like hang washing up or whatever

Have you tried a blanket on the floor in the kitchen? I had a quite foul knitted one which coupled with the plastic tat used to work

Then she could still see me and was still under my feet (grrr) but as least my hands were free

Enid · 22/04/2007 20:54

also I am assuming you have a Hippychick hip seat

god those things are a god send

Enid · 22/04/2007 20:55

dd3 bites

she is a complete ratbag

bites, pinches, screams in horrible high pitched way, hates loads of people

god I love her [fond]

expatinscotland · 22/04/2007 20:56

DD2 shrieks for Scotland.

Ear-piercingly.

Sometimes for no reason at all.

She also bum shuffles. Which people find very amusing.