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Alison Scott-Wright - have you used her sleep method?

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Mishee · 15/03/2007 16:03

Met Alison at The Baby Show and wondered if anyone had tried her sleeping plan? If so, how did it go?

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ShowOfHands · 12/02/2010 17:07

I was going to write a flippant post about paying to advertise on here but actually I think that what this magic fairy person does is dangerous. She is advocating terrible methods and I don't wish to see them on MN actually. Go and take your dangerous PR elsewhere, I'm disgusted that anybody can have that attitude towards a baby. If you want something that you can train to fit into your life from birth get a dog.

And 3 hourly feeds meaning sleeping through. It's just setting up parents of normal babies to feel like failures. You are a parent 24hrs a day to a baby with 24hrs need. You have a duty to meet them. This woman is no fairy, she's ill-advised and preying on the fears, insecurities and struggles of new parents.

hobbgoblin · 12/02/2010 17:16

Ha ha ha ha ha

What everybody else says.

By the way I am a much better sleep trainer - I don't water down milk or promote myself in dubious ways. (If you ignore this tongue in cheek reply )

hailsbabas · 16/02/2010 12:31

I just want to say that I have known Alison for many years on a professional leval and she has helped me train as a successful maternity nurse and baby consultant that I am today. She has been a never ending source of information for me in the past and nothing has been too much trouble for her.
I swear by her methods and anybody who has worked with her and knows her, knows that none of her methods are cruel or regimental
in any way! She is loving kind an always has the babies , parents and professionals such as myself and other baby carers or nannies needs at heart.
I think poeple who certainly don't have the expertise and expieriance that she has had, with hundreds of babies, have no right to knock her.
No where in her book did I see that that she said, babies must be starved or cruely left to cry and go hungry, which has been emplied.
If a baby is of the right weight and is feeding 3 hrly from 7am to 7pm and is still gaining weight, it does not need to be feeding during the night and if you know babies at all, you would know that their are many reasons why babies wake up in the night and 9 times out of 10 its definately not hunger! I have put babies on this routine many times, and have had great success and have had very happy, rested, good milk supplying mums and rested happy babies. So mums out there don't be so judgemental to someone whos whole career is about babies and their interests.

hailsbabas · 16/02/2010 12:38

I just want to say that I have known Alison for many years on a professional leval and she has helped me train as a successful maternity nurse and baby consultant that I am today. She has been a never ending source of information for me in the past and nothing has been too much trouble for her.
I swear by her methods and anybody who has worked with her and knows her, knows that none of her methods are cruel or regimental
in any way! She is loving kind an always has the babies , parents and professionals such as myself and other baby carers or nannies needs at heart.
I think people who certainly don't have the expertise and expieriance that she has had, with hundreds of babies, have no right to knock her.
No where in her book did I see that that she said, babies must be starved or cruely left to cry and go hungry, which has been emplied.
If a baby is of the right weight and is feeding 3 hrly from 7am to 7pm and is still gaining weight, it does not need to be feeding during the night and if you know babies at all, you would know that their are many reasons why babies wake up in the night and 9 times out of 10 its definately not hunger! I have put babies on this routine many times, and have had great success and have had very happy, rested, good milk supplying mums and rested happy babies. So mums out there don't be so judgemental to someone whos whole career is about babies and their interests.

hailsbabas · 16/02/2010 12:40

I just want to say that I have known Alison for many years on a professional level and she has helped me train as a successful maternity nurse and baby consultant that I am today. She has been a never ending source of information for me in the past and nothing has been too much trouble for her.
I swear by her methods and anybody who has worked with her and knows her, knows that none of her methods are cruel or regimental
in any way! She is loving kind an always has the babies , parents and professionals such as myself and other baby carers or nannies needs at heart.
I think people who certainly don't have the expertise and expieriance that she has had, with hundreds of babies, have no right to knock her.
No where in her book did I see that that she said, babies must be starved or cruely left to cry and go hungry, which has been emplied.
If a baby is of the right weight and is feeding 3 hrly from 7am to 7pm and is still gaining weight, it does not need to be feeding during the night and if you know babies at all, you would know that their are many reasons why babies wake up in the night and 9 times out of 10 its definately not hunger! I have put babies on this routine many times, and have had great success and have had very happy, rested, good milk supplying mums and rested happy babies. So mums out there don't be so judgemental to someone whos whole career is about babies and their interests.

SuperAmoo · 16/02/2010 13:23

this is bollox - her book just came out at the beginning of January and it's gettng slated and so someone's trying to promote her on here instead. Trust me when I say from PERSONAL experience this woman is a giant a-hole. She thinks that babies that have reflux should be put onto formula.

PrincessBoo · 16/02/2010 14:30

How many children do you have Hailsbabas?

geriexpecting · 17/02/2010 11:44

Do you people spend all day criticising everything on this website? Yes, some babies will reflux should be put on formula as most babies with reflux are actually allergic to milk (inc breastmilk, just like my son is). Alison has been a life saver for us. I only bought her book and it has made a MASSIVE difference to my refluxy baby's sleep. Everything she says makes sense and she knows more about reflux than any other gp out there. So please don't criticise her until you have actually tried it for yourselves. And in case you are wondering, no, I am not her PR person

SuperAmoo · 17/02/2010 19:17

geriexpecting I feel really sad for you. This woman has told you some total crap about your baby being allergic to your breastmilk. This is bollox of the most disturbing nature. Your baby is NOT allergic to your breastmilk. He is allergic to the proteins in your breastmilk that originate in your diet. Most likely cows milk and soya protein. But also egg and gluten proteins are common allergens in refluxy babies. You should seriously do something about having been spun a line by this women who told you to stop breastfeeding. It is also possible that your baby couldn't handle the lactose in your milk - you could have just given him lactase enzyme. This makes me ABSOLUTELY LIVID that some stupid ignorant old bag has told you that your son is allergic to breastmilk. good grief.

SuperAmoo · 17/02/2010 19:19

Just to add - all that was required to help your son's reflux was a change of diet for you and this woman should have known that. As I said before, what a total a-hole.

weegiemum · 17/02/2010 19:32

Don't you think it is interesting that almost all of the "positive" posts on this thread are by "mumsnetters" who have only posted on this thread?

Do they spend the day searching for web things about this woman and then adding comments? Don't they have enough to do? Are they paid to do so?

geriexpecting · 18/02/2010 14:38

You people really make me sad. Alison Scott-Wright didn't tell me my baby was allergic to breastmilk, a paed who specialises in allergies did and put him on a special milk. Please don't attack me when you don't even know my story or my baby's. When he fed on my breastmilk I cut out ALL allergens and he was still very ill. He was so ill he was hospitilised. Most of you have no idea what you are talking about and it's because of people like you that this site is getting bad press. Shame on you. You should be helping people NOT judging the way you do.

geriexpecting · 18/02/2010 14:50

You people really make me sad. Alison Scott-Wright didn't tell me my baby was allergic to breastmilk, a paed who specialises in allergies did and put him on a special milk. Please don't attack me when you don't even know my story or my baby's. When he fed on my breastmilk I cut out ALL allergens and he was still very ill. He was so ill he was hospitilised. Most of you have no idea what you are talking about and it's because of people like you that this site is getting bad press. Shame on you. You should be helping people NOT judging the way you do.

rubyslippers · 18/02/2010 14:56

no one will ever convince me that watering down formula to cut out night feeds for a 5 week old is the right thing to do

my DD is 18 weeks and feeds at least twice per night

it is shite and i am knackered but there is no way i would or should start to even think about night weaning

and breastmilk is absolutely the best thing for a refluxy baby

many HCPs know very little about breastfeeding

SuperAmoo · 18/02/2010 14:57

I'm sorry geriexpecting I shouldn't have assumed it was ASW that told you that. I assumed because of things she said to me about my own baby in the past and I thought she was at it again. It sounds like your son was very lucky to have such a good paed who knew what was wrong as I certainly was not aware that it was possible to be allergic to breastmilk. I'm sorry I attacked you. It's ASW that I have issues with as she told me lots of ridiculous twaddle about reflux. Maybe she's more knowlegeable now.

rubyslippers · 18/02/2010 14:57

i will judge anyone who waters down formula for a 5 week old

duchesse · 18/02/2010 15:20

I find it strange that the triplets were on a four hourly schedule at 36 weeks, when my full-term infant came out of NICU on a 3 hourly schedule. Just saying.

geriexpecting · 18/02/2010 20:22

That's the problem, you all assume. You assume she's wrong, you assume it's not going to work, etc. Things will work for you and things won't but don't judge people for trying things out of desperation. You'd be silly to follow one author's technique to the letter, some things might not work for your baby. Our baby was too little at birth to even think of watering down feeds and his reflux was affecting his sleep so there was no point trying to get him sleep trained until everything was in control. Alison Scott-Wright does stipulate that you can't start sleep training your baby unless he is absolutely healthy and reflux free. We only followed her technique for older babies and it has worked for us. It also worked for my friend's baby. She does know A LOT about reflux, a lot more than any GP or paed we saw and I hope she continues her campaign to raise the awareness of reflux.

I must say I am so glad I didn't come on this site for support when I was diagnosed with post-natal depression. No doubt you would have all judged me for not breastfeeding, feeding my baby expensive formula and weaning him at 16 weeks.

I'll stick to sites where people are friendly and actually helpful.

Lulumama · 18/02/2010 20:26

gerie, i thikn if you search MN you will find a whole lot of support for women who have had PND , bottle fed and had issues with reflux / lactose intolerance etc

what you won't find support for is rigid scheduling of feeds for new borns and totally incorrect advice about denying newborns a correctly made up milk feed at night

watering down milk is absolutely the wrong thing to do , it prevents the correct balance of vitamins and minerals in teh formula, which is the food and drink for a baby and needed to be made correctly to ensrue the baby is nourished and can grown and develop

so i make no apoliges for taking issue with that

I am glad that you got soemthing positive from ASW, however, this is a forum. we discuss things, and don't always agree

hailsbabas · 19/02/2010 07:54

Everyone is entitled to a view, but to be down right nasty about it on the net like this, I for one would not even consider taking anyones advise who can be so down right rude about another on line like this, no matter who they talking about. I have 6 children. Biologicaly 3 but brought up my husbands 3 who are mine too. And as I said before anyone who has dealt with 100s of babies has definately got my ears before a rude person who has had a couple of kids or if any. I just happened along this group the other day and trust me I won't be part of it very long as its not very loving or helpful at all when mums have nothing better to do than be horrid. Sorry to those who are polite and nice tho, dont let others spoil your gentle ways!!!

SuperAmoo · 19/02/2010 09:24

Right. I wouldn't normally get involved in forum squabbles but you've pissed me right off geriexpecting. I think it's pathetic you've pulled the PND card. How childish you are. This isn't a thread about PND is it? This is a thread started by someone trying to MAKE MONEY by covertly promoting a book. This thread is a PR exercise which is why everyone jumped on it in a critcal way. And you start harping on about PND and MN not being supportive. You're an idiot. Please DO go away and go to another forum. MN is for people with a brain. And by the way I am not going to pussy foot around the fact that Alison S-W thinks that babies with reflux do better on formula so she is therefore, in MY opinion, not a good person to talk to about reflux.

Lulumama · 19/02/2010 12:24

ahislbabas, a lot of people on MN are HCPs, MWs, HVs, nurses, maternity nurses, doulas, breastfeeding supporters, doctors etc etc

not just a bunch of women hanging around just to be mean

but i repeat, you iwll not find support on MN for watering down the feeds of a newborn

if that does not suit you, then perhaps this is not the forum for you

it does not matte r if you've had 6 kids or no kids, if hte advice you give or endorse is wrong , dangerous, outdated or part of a book promotion

watering down formula feeds for a baby of any age, UNLESS under medical supervision is wrong

i cannot support a child care 'expert' who advocates this

hailsbabas · 19/02/2010 13:24

I stand to correct you Lulumama
I only mentioned the amount of kids I had because one of the ladies ( if you go back) asked me how many kids I had. And it seems the professionals whom I know are on this MN, seem to carry themselves politely. I just don't see why all the nastiness has to come into peoples personal views is all.
And no I won't go away on your orders. If I decide to remove myself from this net,I think that will be my choice, for like yourself am also entitled to an opiniun.
And nobody to my knowledge dilutes feeds to newborn babies that are just that! "newborn" or undernourished or have not had the amount of full feeds required for a baby over a 24 hr period or under weight for that matter.
Also having done more research on Alison Scott-Wright have duly noted that the positivety by far outways the negitivety and there are a lot of very happy and satisfied families out there, including the backing of medical professionals.
But thats not my point its the nastiness thats so uneccessary. By all means don't agree with me or anyone else but rudeness is not nice. You don't know me or probably Alison for that matter, so why judge so harshly. Alison does have my interest! but no! as some have accused! am not trying to market her book as I mentioned I just happened upon this sight. If you look at the stats her book is doing fine all by itself.
Thank you for your input.

rubyslippers · 19/02/2010 13:37

lulu wasn't rude

and she didn't order you to leave this forum

if you read Alison's article she herself states that she watered down feeds for the triplets when they were 5 weeks old - that is their corrected age so even more dangerous to do it for a premature baby

Lulumama · 19/02/2010 13:46

thanks ruby

i suggested if you find MN and its members rude and offensive and upsetting, it might not be the right forum for you, there are loads of parenting forums

MN does not suit everyone

i have not ordered you to leave

several places in this thread mention the advice of watering down feeds, incl author of the book.

it is bad bad bad advice

if you can point out where i have been anything other than polite, i will happily apologise, there is a difference between taking a robust standpoint on a topic, and being nasty