Punishment for stealing and lying

[Itcouldhavebeenbeetroot]

So ds3 has been caught out a few times now, had strong and gently chats about it. Silly things - pens, inkibish, etc.

each time I say 'it will be much worse if you lie - last chance to tell me the truth etc etc

Today he lied to me about the whereabouts of his flute
and I shouted at him saying 'that's it - no more Mr nice guy'

this afternoon I found a calculator in his bag - he said it was ds1, ds1 said that ds3 had said he had bought it.

so my guess is he has lifted it ewufhodjfnc;iudhfp ea

So what do I do?

short sharp shock IMO.

does not get back until 730 because of singing and football.

You ds's have to take it back to the shop and have to explain to the manager?

not sure if it shop - might be child at school -

was just going to say the same thing!! Make him take it back and explain to the manager why he took it

Ground him from his favourite activity for a period of time?
Seek the intervention of the Head?
Has he stolen this calculator from a shop beety, or another child in school?
Oh I am really sorry this is still going on

maybe you should have stopped letting him go to football and singing as a starter

Singing is choir practice though naily and part of his normal school day

not sur. Think this must have happened before I intervened and now discovering

Can't stop singing but can stop football -

bin it!

my dd came home with some felt tips pens yesterday her friend stole out of a teachers draw.

she wold have got excluded.

so i binned them
next time sh'll be excluded

bin them

then next time let the school deal with it

oh right sorry beety, didnt know about the choir

so - no football

bin calcualtor? or take it back saying he found it? (which is lying again) and next time he has to hand it in and admit lying?

what would the school do if he told the truth?

earlier bed works sometimes, make it clear that he is going to bed half an hour earlier because of this and if it happens again it will be three quarters of an hour.

Not sure - he has been warned already by nice teacher at school and we agreed not to invovle the head. If head gets involved - don't no

nearly 10

Becasue this calculater must have happened before the telling off I am inclined to keep it within the home with the threat of the head from now on

Beety - I don't think there is much choice other than for him to take the calculator back and face the music(ha ha)!

I think if you try and mitigate the impact of this on him, by telling white lies (like he found it somewhere) you are just colluding with him and losing an opportunity for him to really get to grips with the consequences of his behaviour.

I really do think he needs to face up to this in its entirety, as painful as it might be to see his distress at whatever happens at school as a result. If you don't then I think you will be forever battling with it as an issue. Every time something goes missing at school the finger will point at him - it really is his reputation that is at stake- and the sooner it is nipped in the bud the better!

So sorry you are going through this

As to timing - when did he tell DS1 that he had bought it?

Could he not have bought it ?? Not at all ?? You can get some really cheap ones now - I got dd one from tesco Value range for about 75p - could it be at all possible that he is not lying ??

Soapy - it seems to have been around for a few weeks - but I have only just noticed it.

No way he coudl have bought it - he would have told me. It is about 7 quid.

there is an option that he found it of course and instead of handing it in pocketed it

If that's the case, then I would be tempted to overlook it this time!

BUT this is not the first time - he has 'found' things