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AIBU? My 18 month old DS called a nasty little boy :(

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Midorichan · 27/01/2015 12:32

I'm sitting here sobbing. I've just had to take my little boy from the soft play I went to after another mother shouted at him and called him a nasty little boy. He'd run to the gate waiting whist I paid, all excited, and he was slapping at the other children's hands through the bars laughing (he thought it was a game, he had his gloves on and wasn't trying to hurt them), then when we went in he went up the top of the soft play frame. There's a separate section with plastic sheeting, and he was on the other side facing a little boy and he was slapping at the plastic, laughing again, trying to reach the other little boy because he thought it was a game. I told him to be gentle but then the little boy, who looked to be a bit younger than my son, started to cry because my son caught him in the face. I was mortified, and told him to apologise to the little boy because he'd had made him cry (he can't talk yet so his way of "apologising" is to hug). I said he had hurt him, that's why he was crying, and he needed to be gentle. I also said I was really sorry to the mother, and she said "oh don't worry". My DS then went down the slide twice, up the top again where the other little boy was and got too rough with him trying to play, making the little boy cry. I went up there just as my son was slapping the plastic again and hit the other boy, at which point across the soft play I hear "no, I;m sorry but that's just nasty!" and up comes the same mother I apologised to. She grabbed her child, who was crying and turned to my 18 month old and called him a nasty little boy. I had been telling my son to be gentle etc at this point and look he'd made the other boy cry by the plastic hitting him, so was shocked when she said this to his face. I said to her, "he's just a little boy, he doesn't understand", and she was like "he's a nasty little boy. He was trying to hit all the other children at the gate!". I started to shake (I have mild autism and can;t take confrontation and said to her "I hope it never happens to you", to which she said "well it won't because I don't raise my children to be nasty". She then took her child down. I sat up there, wondering what to do, as i heard all the other mothers in the group going silent and this women saying what a nasty little boy my son was. I thought, I can;t stay here, and went to get my son who was in the process of trying to hug another child (he's a hugger, which is unfortunate because apparently that makes him a little weirdo according to another mother I once overheard talking about him). As I sat trying to put his shoes on, I said to the woman again who was sat there studiously ignoring me "He's just a little boy, he's just trying to play…" and she said again "he's a nasty little child", at which every single other mother there nodded. Every single one of them. They were all sat there, me on the floor in the middle, nodding at me. I was trying so hard not to cry at this point. How on earth can you get an 18 month old who can't yet talk to understand he can't play with other kids roughly? He wasn't hitting them, he doesn't shove or push or slap or bite. He likes to hug and roll around. That waving out his hands at them as play is wrong because he might hit them instead? As we went to leave, I couldn't help it, I said to her, "you're a horrible woman", and I left.

I wanted to explain to her that he has only recently started to try and physical play with other kids, that he's always been a gently little guy but as he's becoming more aware he's trying to get other kids to play with him like he does with us at home and it's not good because they might not like him because he's too strong for them. He's never hurt another child, he's never hit another child, but his brand of "playing" looks like he;s trying, if that makes sense. Am I being unreasonable? Is he a nasty little boy? What do I do?
When we've been to these things before and other kids have hit him/kicked him/bit him, the parents have apologised and I haven't been angry because like me they try and discipline and explain why it's wrong, but it's hard when he's only a year and a half old. I guess I just can't take him to soft play or toddler groups. The stress of dealing with other mothers is too much.

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SolomanDaisy · 27/01/2015 12:35

Its not you or your son, it's her. The other mothers went quiet because they were embarrassed that she was making a twat of herself. Your DS is behaving like like a normal child his age. Don't worry, you're doing fine.

Chilicosrenegade · 27/01/2015 12:39

It was not your son.

It was her.

She was a vindictive cow. (Repeat)

There's a lot of them at soft play....

Flowers
AlmaMartyr · 27/01/2015 12:55

She was a horrible women and the others were probably embarrassed or ewually unpleasant.

It's not your son, he's fine.

Flowers for you, you must be distraught Sad

TinyTear · 27/01/2015 13:08

what a nasty woman! 18 months is just so young...

repeat 1000 times "SHE was a nasty cow"
(and if her kid was younger than yours, why was he up there by himself unsupervised?)

stressbucket1 · 27/01/2015 13:08

Of course he isn't a nasty boy how ridiculous to say that about a baby!
I would still go to soft play and playgroups because he needs to learn how to interact but not all kids like rough play so you might be better to follow him around a bit so you are near if he gets over excited

Allstoppedup · 27/01/2015 13:20

Oh OP reading this made me tear up for you!

My DS is 13 months and is EXACTLY the same. He's a real hugger and slobbery kisser and quite often this results in him knocking other babies over/ making them cry. We try to tell him and show him to be gentle and I watch him closely around smaller babies but it is impossible to hover close enough and constant enough to stop it every time. Sometimes it is embarrassing when DS is too rough but as you say they are still so tiny and learning to navigate these types of situations.

I'm sorry but an 18 month old BABY does not have the capacity to be nasty. I like you would have been devastated and really upset but I don't think you did anything wrong at all and that the only nasty person in this situation was the woman.

Don't get me wrong, she may have just seen red at her LO being hurt but there is no excuse for how she spoke to you. Maybe one day her DS won't behave in the exact way she hopes and she will realise how unfair she was to you.

Please don't let her and the other mums (who were probably her friends!) upset you. Your DS sounds like a gorgeous, excitable squish, just like they should be at that age.

FlowersCakeBrew

meglet · 27/01/2015 13:23

the other mum is a cow.

your ds is normal whereas she is a bitch Grin .

GoldfishSpy · 27/01/2015 13:26

I'm sorry this has happened.

But I can also see the POV of the other mothers.

Yes, they were absolutely wrong to call your DS a nasty little boy, which he obviously isn't.

But I would have expected you to take some action to reduce the risk of him hitting/hurting/slapping another child, even if he was only doing it in fun.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/01/2015 13:27

An 18 month old is not a nasty little boy. Full stop.

Quokka12 · 27/01/2015 13:27

She massively over-reacted - 18month old isn't nasty!

But to be fair I can see her point of view minus the over-reaction - where were you after your son hit her child and made him cry the first time? The first time she basically says no worries - it happens. I'd expect after that for you to be supervising closely especially as you say you know your son hasn't learnt re rough play yet. Instead he is rough and makes her child cry again and then by the time you get there has hit him again - so 3 incidents in a pretty short time frame. I wouldn't have said anything about your son - it is a stage and not his fault - but I would have said to you that if you need to supervise/ watch closely after it happens the first time and not just leave it otherwise what is she supposed to do - let your child hit hers? Remove her child when your child's behaviour is the issue?

CinnabarRed · 27/01/2015 13:27

Exactly was stressbucket said.

Of course he isn't a nasty boy how ridiculous to say that about a baby!
I would still go to soft play and playgroups because he needs to learn how to interact but not all kids like rough play so you might be better to follow him around a bit so you are near if he gets over excited

Go again, but keep a bit closer to him. Not least because 18 months and non-verbal is quite little to be on his own on any of the play frames we've even been to.

Quokka12 · 27/01/2015 13:27

She massively over-reacted - 18month old isn't nasty!

But to be fair I can see her point of view minus the over-reaction - where were you after your son hit her child and made him cry the first time? The first time she basically says no worries - it happens. I'd expect after that for you to be supervising closely especially as you say you know your son hasn't learnt re rough play yet. Instead he is rough and makes her child cry again and then by the time you get there has hit him again - so 3 incidents in a pretty short time frame. I wouldn't have said anything about your son - it is a stage and not his fault - but I would have said to you that if you need to supervise/ watch closely after it happens the first time and not just leave it otherwise what is she supposed to do - let your child hit hers? Remove her child when your child's behaviour is the issue?

Quokka12 · 27/01/2015 13:27

She massively over-reacted - 18month old isn't nasty!

But to be fair I can see her point of view minus the over-reaction - where were you after your son hit her child and made him cry the first time? The first time she basically says no worries - it happens. I'd expect after that for you to be supervising closely especially as you say you know your son hasn't learnt re rough play yet. Instead he is rough and makes her child cry again and then by the time you get there has hit him again - so 3 incidents in a pretty short time frame. I wouldn't have said anything about your son - it is a stage and not his fault - but I would have said to you that if you need to supervise/ watch closely after it happens the first time and not just leave it otherwise what is she supposed to do - let your child hit hers? Remove her child when your child's behaviour is the issue?

Quokka12 · 27/01/2015 13:27

She massively over-reacted - 18month old isn't nasty!

But to be fair I can see her point of view minus the over-reaction - where were you after your son hit her child and made him cry the first time? The first time she basically says no worries - it happens. I'd expect after that for you to be supervising closely especially as you say you know your son hasn't learnt re rough play yet. Instead he is rough and makes her child cry again and then by the time you get there has hit him again - so 3 incidents in a pretty short time frame. I wouldn't have said anything about your son - it is a stage and not his fault - but I would have said to you that if you need to supervise/ watch closely after it happens the first time and not just leave it otherwise what is she supposed to do - let your child hit hers? Remove her child when your child's behaviour is the issue?

Quokka12 · 27/01/2015 13:27

She massively over-reacted - 18month old isn't nasty!

But to be fair I can see her point of view minus the over-reaction - where were you after your son hit her child and made him cry the first time? The first time she basically says no worries - it happens. I'd expect after that for you to be supervising closely especially as you say you know your son hasn't learnt re rough play yet. Instead he is rough and makes her child cry again and then by the time you get there has hit him again - so 3 incidents in a pretty short time frame. I wouldn't have said anything about your son - it is a stage and not his fault - but I would have said to you that if you need to supervise/ watch closely after it happens the first time and not just leave it otherwise what is she supposed to do - let your child hit hers? Remove her child when your child's behaviour is the issue?

Quokka12 · 27/01/2015 13:27

She massively over-reacted - 18month old isn't nasty!

But to be fair I can see her point of view minus the over-reaction - where were you after your son hit her child and made him cry the first time? The first time she basically says no worries - it happens. I'd expect after that for you to be supervising closely especially as you say you know your son hasn't learnt re rough play yet. Instead he is rough and makes her child cry again and then by the time you get there has hit him again - so 3 incidents in a pretty short time frame. I wouldn't have said anything about your son - it is a stage and not his fault - but I would have said to you that if you need to supervise/ watch closely after it happens the first time and not just leave it otherwise what is she supposed to do - let your child hit hers? Remove her child when your child's behaviour is the issue?

MummyBeerest · 27/01/2015 13:31

She's ignorant. He's 18 months old.

At least he can outgrow his behaviour.

I'm so sorry this happened Sad Flowers

TeWiSavesTheDay · 27/01/2015 13:33

What an absolute idiot she was.

Staying close to your DS is a good idea, but really these phases pass.

I remember an incident like this at a playgroup I went to. The shouty Mum stopped coming and everyone was really friendly to the Mum who got yelled at when she came back.

MrsKCastle · 27/01/2015 13:36

The nasty person in that situation was certainly not your son. It sounds like you were doing everything right- reacting when he got a bit rough and teaching him to be careful. And as for the comment about her child never doing that... ha! Karma will come back to bite her one day.

When my DD1 was about 18 months, maybe a bit older, she was playing with a younger boy in the playground. They were being really nice together, but all of a sudden DD shoved him in the chest with both hands, pushing him to the ground. I was absolutely mortified! It was completely unlike DD but the boy's dad was really understanding and didn't make a big deal of it. It's not nice to see your child being hurt at the hands of other children, but it is part of growing up to a certain extent.

JudgeJudyKicksAss · 27/01/2015 13:39

Don't be upset, your little one is only a baby and doesn't understand, however it may be he needs a little bit more supervision from you next time.

The other parent was being very unfair to label your child in such a way (hope her little boy grows up to be Peter Perfect or she's in for an eyeopening experience!)

Flowers
MrsTawdry · 27/01/2015 13:41

She sounds dreadful saying that to a little boy who is still really a baby...BUT...knowing the way he is you need to offer him more help. I used to have to shadow one of mine around softplay because she was over enthusiastic and would often knock other kids over...she was tall for her age too and to avoid this sort of thing I literally squeezed myself all through the play frames with her and stuck by her until she was old enough to control her urges.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 27/01/2015 13:44

your son is not nasty, he's 18 mths. Which is why you should have removed him immediately once you realised that what he was doing that for you was playing, was causing distress to other children. At 18 mths they are far too young to understand playing nicely, or being nasty, or saying sorry.
Don't beat yourself up, softplay was invented to ruin mothers' lives IMO.

"playing"

CinnabarRed · 27/01/2015 13:45

I literally squeezed myself all through the play frames with her and stuck by her until she was old enough to control her urges

I had to do the same with DS1. He's very tall for his age too.

DS3 is a competent different kettle of fish - he's small for his age and still needs me to go round with him in case he gets scared - and he's 3 now!

CinnabarRed · 27/01/2015 13:46

BTW, by the time he was 2, DS1 was through his boisterous phase.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 27/01/2015 13:46

Don't know where that random 'playing' came from, sorry!