F&Z's top parenting tip for the week

[FrannyandZooey]

This has worked wonders for me to get my 3 y o to remember how to do certain things. I have made a list and stuck it up on the wall in the toilet (has just started using toilet independently but forgets all the things he is meant to do). He can't read so I have drawn pictures next to the different items which are:

wipe yourself (drawing of toilet roll)
pull up your pants and trousers
put the seat down
wash your hands
shut the door (nb yes I am a bit anal about this but otherwise it is left wide open and blocks out all the light into the hall)

This has been very effective for us this week and he is proud that he can 'read' the list and remember what to do. I think it could work well for other jobs such as room tidying, getting ready to go out etc (put on your shoes, go to the loo, get your coat and so on). Am now wondering if it would work for dps....

Thanks jj. am going to check that stuff out.

thats it hunker.

Pez.

Somehow not tacky

yes, its good.

i've been messing about with drawing stuff myself on cards but I can't be ar$ed really. mUch rather give someone else the money.

I thought "behavioural" just meant "of human behaviour" (as in spitting is a behavioural problem rather than a dietary or a neurological one, for example), whereas "behaviourist" referred to the specific behaviourism theory which modifies behaviour through reward/punishment-based manipulation. But I don't know, I just thought so.

oh but theres behavioural modification techniques aren't there?

But these are loosely based on behaviourist stuff a la watson and skinner (both high order f*ckwits IMO - I think it was Watson who did n't ever pick up his baby son in case it made him gay) but still.

I am probably utterly wrong. And I do not care, for I have my laminated degree certificate. Mwah ha ha ha ha

It's a v common technique for children with special needs, especially autism- often called a visual timetable or message. And very well it tends to work too. Congrats to you and your boy on cracking the loo, f & z.

I think that's ungrammatical - they should be called "behaviour modification" techniques, based on behaviourist theory

...but I haven't got a psychology degree

ah, does it not depend on whether the modification techniques are behavioural in nature, or the technique is one that causes behaviour is being modified?

TO be modified, ffs!

I think a "behavioural modification" technique would be a method of modifying something using behaviour of a certain kind.

A "behaviour modification" technique would be a means of modifying behaviour which may or many not be behaviourist in character.

A "behaviourist" technique would be a means of modifying behaviour using a reward-punishment-based system for manipulating behaviour.

But as I say, I don't know. I did History

I wouldn't say it's a behaviour modification technique per se, though am no expert. I think it's generally used to teach routines by providing a predictable (and therefore reassuring to many children with autism) series of steps to achieve a particular outcome as smoothly and unstressfully as possible. The picture based communication can reinforce understanding too. I love visual timetables actually.

yes, agree greeny, just am not sure how the additionla "al" affects the grammar.

history...now thats interesting...

Well it makes it an adjective rather than a noun?

filly- on do2learn- loads of freebies- don't pay for the odd symbol!

visual timetables are fab, we take out a little strip and add symbols as and when we need- commonly to use for countdowns- so buttons (threading buttons) to represent 3, 2, 1 and then a symbol for finished. They can be paired with a reward (on the PECS link for example scroll down and you'll see the "I am working for" stuff, which would be used with a schedule. They're used widely in any behavioural program, but like I said it was just a joke (because they are used so widely in any behavioural program I thought it was funny that fandz was suggesting them). BUt obviously it fell flat anyway. I will not be looking to move into comedy.

I just think grammar makes me look like the the Bear With Brown Fuzzy Hair

Anyone else with any Top Parenting Tips? My mind is blank and the eyeballs rolling around!

LOL hunker - just had a look at the site that your image is from.

Pity this isn't my kinda lady: Ripped .

LOL. She would have me for breakfast.

it does look good...ds is now quite verbal but other people have real problems understanding him...he was late in talking (and I don't mean, he only had 6 words at 4 weeks I mean SALT assesment late). No problems with comprehension and what he is saying is great, age appropriate etc, but others often don't understand him. Will probably need speech therapy, and it is partly why we are home-educating.

We run on fairly democratic lines too so I'd like to be able to put up a list of "decided" activities which are non-negotiable.

Is it a US company though?

I´m confused JJ - you use buttons as reward / progress system?

Think F&Z uses pictures to remind her ds and not as reward, but it is progress!

top parenting tip from Filly follows:

Don't give your kids too many bananas, you'll only regret it.

lots of this stuff in dd2 nusery. theres one in the toilet similar to how you do it F&Z.

i have some PECS symbols label drawers etc so kids know where to put stuff.

have added the dotolearn site to favourites to have a browse later. dd2 keeps forgetting underwear.

I use timetables/scedules everywhere (as does school), the buttons are being used as a schedule- we count (reinforced visually) then we go in- if I was to pair with a reward would be buttons (these are just symbols, then finished symbol (so we stop peering through someone's letterbox) then chocolate button (reward). Usually these days we don't need the reward for a standard well understood sequence- unless the behaviour is particularly challenging/or the sequence particularly unpopular. We used it for toilet training. Now would use if formally for challengiing behaviours, or to reinforce sequences.

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There needs to be given the price of an ABA consultant Socci (over 20 grand a year to run a program for those with no experience in this area.......- can be an extremely good teaching technique though when it all comes together- luckily for us ds1's school use a lot of behavioural techniques for free....)

lol @I will not be looking to move into comedy, jj. My jokes always fall flat too.

the words lead and balloon spring to mind. Hey ho.