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I love my 7 year old, but she is so challenging...

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Iwaswatchingthat · 29/07/2013 23:07

Just that really....

She still has huge tantrums daily.

Today she has had two major ones.

The first was because she wanted to go in the car and we were walking. It lasted fifteen minutes with her pulling the car door, opening it, getting in, refusing to get out, being lifted out whilst screaming 'you're hurting me'. Then grabbing my hand, trying to hold onto my leg, block me as I am walking along, stop her sister holding my hand. Then lots of sorrys and 'can I have a cuddle?' Then all forgotten and a nice afternoon.

Then tonight - wanted to get back in the bath when bath time was over. That tantrum has only finished in the last half an hour. Lots of screaming and shouting. DH was doing bath so I could have some time - ha ha - some hope with her screaming 'I want mummy' for the last few hours. Then lots of coming downstairs, lots of demands (which are not given into) - brush my hair mummy, get me a drink, please tuck me in (again as already tucked in once, but she got out). Then yet again lots of sorry, please can I have a cuddle......

Basically I am worn out with it all - if she starts to have a tantrum at night then it is 'game over' for us having any evening.

I am now too stressed and fed up to sleep and I am exhausted. My shoulders are tense and my head is banging.

I feel like I am the only person amongst my friends who has a child who behaves this way. She is so gorgeous in lots of ways and gets plenty of love and attention. I have been with her all day long......

Any advice appreciated.

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MyCatIsAStupidBastard · 31/07/2013 22:02

Sounds like me DD too. She is coming up 8 now and although she still has her moments it's a lot better.

What i have found works very well is to give her a lot of love. Lots of cuddles and telling her i love her, really calms her down and makes life a lot easier. Simple but very effective. I think a lot of her behaviour was about insecurities and how far she could push my love so when i show her a lot of love she feels secure and it calms everything else.

Might be worth a try? It can be hard to start at first, as i felt quite resentful when she was causing so much family distress (which she no doubt picked up on and made her behaviour worse), but perseverance paid off and we are all a lot happier.

Iwaswatchingthat · 31/07/2013 22:04

I feel tons better knowing it is not just me - thank you.

Her teacher next year is lovely so will be easy to chat to.

She has cuddled me all night on the sofa, it has been lovely. Then when bedtime came she moaned that she had hardly had any time to cuddle me!!!

Sometimes I find it funny - like today I have enjoyed her personality and been able to shrug off her quirks and other days I just run out of patience!!

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Iwaswatchingthat · 31/07/2013 22:06

mycatis I agree that does def work with her. We are guilty of telling her she is hard work too.

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MyCatIsAStupidBastard · 31/07/2013 22:23

Oh yes i did that too and was guilty of casting her in the role of naughty child whilst DS was good child. Unfair, when she is a very good girl really and is only young and learning about her place in the world and it is my job to help her cope with her emotions.

where the bloody hell was the manual when they were born!!!

Mopswerver · 31/07/2013 23:43

The "not being in the moment" thing...absolutely. And the grass is always greener for everyone else...always! She also remembers everything and has an answer for everything.

On the up side, now that she is older I can see past a lot of it and can appreciate the very many qualities that she has. She's very bright and sparky, very creative and witty. I can enjoy her sense of humour these days...I think I lost my own back there but it has come back!

Challenging, yes, but worth it...every bit. Hang in there Smile

Mopswerver · 31/07/2013 23:46

...and yes, agree with mycatis love and cuddles. Carrot not stick. Sometimes though....

Iwaswatchingthat · 01/08/2013 08:09

Thank you!

mycatis mine came without a manual too.......Grin

mopswerver Think you may have her long lost twin.....imagine two of them? Arrrrggghhh!!! But yes very, very funny - everyone else says she is a knockout and she is renowned for being hilarious!!

Actually just sharing this has made me really lighten up! Enjoy the rest of the summer. Xx

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Mopswerver · 01/08/2013 08:18

It's a great thread for me too. I've never known another child like her so (sorry girls) it's great to hear from others having a similar experience! So many similarities! Hurrah, it's not just me!! Blush

orangeandemons · 01/08/2013 09:28

Why does it always seem to be girls though. We had 3dss. All as placid as po water. Then we had the Tazmanian Devil Hmm

orangeandemons · 01/08/2013 09:29

pond water!

Iwaswatchingthat · 01/08/2013 09:33

Po water!!! Grin sounds like some upmarket drink!!

No idea why always seems to be girls, having said that we have two dds and one is as calm as Po water Grin too!!!

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orangeandemons · 01/08/2013 09:52

Are they all Velcro children too? A lot of people on here advise love bombing for dc like this, but I read that and think I already give my dd practically full on 100% attention. Should I give her more Hmm. We also have sock meltdowns and buttons....

I read The Highly Sensitive child which my dd slotted right into. It did help a bit, well as much as anything does with this sort of kid.

I remember trying to get her to sit on the naughty step. It was just a joke " you can't tell me what to do, I'm not doing it" etc etc

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 01/08/2013 10:04

See my dd wasn't a demanding baby or toddler and was the perfect child up til about four. She's nearly seven now and no idea why she acts this way. She doesn't know either. you are not alone op

Iwaswatchingthat · 01/08/2013 10:12

My dd is still practically attached to me at all times. When she was a baby/toddler she was permanently in my arms to the extent that I hurt my back so much I couldn't get up one day!

She did cry lots when she was a baby and in my darkest moments I do wonder if she has an attachment problem as I let her cry sometimes when she was a baby. MN does not reassure me in this sense as leaving your baby to cry is always vilified on here!

But then I remember that the fact she was in my arms constantly must mean that I hardly ever left her to cry.....why do mothers always blame themselves?

Surely some children are just like this because they just are!!! Nothing deeper!

I will get a copy of the sensitive child though - who is it by please?

Dd won't even enter a room if there is a fly in it, yes a fly!!! She is also terrified of dogs (though wants a puppy and can tolerate grandma's placid dog), cats, guinea pigs, anything which flys......

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Iwaswatchingthat · 01/08/2013 10:14

oranges I think I 'love bomb' her every single day anyway. She is always getting cuddled or kissed. I also do not think I could do more. Tbh I feel her sister does very well not to moan about not getting as many cuddles.

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Iwaswatchingthat · 01/08/2013 10:17

oranges so I totally agree with you - more would mean giving up any form of work, joining her at school and allowing her to sit on my knee all day there too!!!

Just for interest does your dd also seem jealous of your DH?
My dd seems to ramp up her desire to be near me when he gets home. I often feel they are fighting over me.
"I just want to speak to mummy now"
"Well she is my mummy and I want to sit on her knee and have a cuddle" etc. etc. etc.

The second voice was dd by the way, not DH!!!! But yes he does refer to me as mummy when taking about me to the kids.

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Plus3 · 01/08/2013 10:53

I will also get a copy of the highly sensitive child - to add to my collection..
DD wasn't a Velcro baby, was very easy to put down, however DS was. It was almost as if he needed the pressure of being held.
DD is quite possessive of me though.

BeCool · 01/08/2013 10:54

Great to find this thread - I was just thinking of starting one myself about my 5yo DD - so is intelligent, loving, funny, motivated, independent. AND THEN she is a fury, violent (hitting/kicking/throwing), moody and increasingly prone to tantrum when things don't go her way (at home - she isn't like this elsewhere).

She is also highly sensitive to clothing, labels, noise etc. And a fussy eater.

It is MUCH worse when she is tired. And she would be mortified if the teacher knew about her behaviour (to my shame I've used that as a tool to get her to calm down before). I will talk to her new teacher as suggested up thread - thanks.

We are having a very difficult week -but she's just had 3 nights at her fathers over the weekend and he puts them to bed when it suits HIM i.e. very late. And then he calls me saying he is concerned about DD1's behaviour! He refuses to link it to all the late nights he selfishly provides.

Of course it's not just the late nights, but they exacerbate the bad behaviour. We have almost recovered sleepwise from the weekend - and it is Thursday! It's exhausting.

I've found tackling her head on just makes things worse. She has also started attention seeking behaviour - ripping books, drawing on bedroom wall and floor in thick black marker Shock, cutting soft toys - none of which she has ever done before. Talking about this quietly after the event, she said she did it as she wanted me to tell her off.

She does get lots of affection and attention. She is quite high maintenance. I have a 2yo DD also and sometimes DD1's behaviour is quite regressive - she wants to be a toddler too. DD1 to her credit is 95% of the time a wonderful big sister. But I do worry what she might do in that other 5% sometimes.

A week ago she was having a major tantrum in the car - it just got worse and worse. She was sat behind me and kicking my chair over and over, harder and harder. Throwing books and toys at me - I was driving! I thought she was going to break the drivers seat. Eventually I pulled the car over, got out of the car and slapped her on the thigh! I don't usually smack her, but I really was at wits end. loud noise, but no mark. BIG MISTAKE. It had the desired effect of stopping her violent behaviour and leaving the seat alone. But since then when she has been naughty she says she wants me to smack her Sad I feel doubly dreadful. I won't do that again - it just makes things worse.

So my tactics now are 100% just staying calm. Explaining how I feel, giving her space. Not ignoring her, but not feeding the bad behaviour with attention. The worst thing I can do is get cross - she loves it! Hmm I struggle with that.

I also don't engage in the argument with her. DD1 "I want XYZ." Me - "well we can't do that today because we are doing ABC. We can think about it for another day." DD1 "BUT I WANT XYZ" (repeat x 100). ME - I stay silent or I say "I've told you how I feel about that already".

She does get lots of affection from me, from her childminder and teachers, other family members, from her sister and friends - she is a very tactile affectionate girl.

No doubt splitting with XP at Xmas has made things worse, and does his attitude (blame me, put them to bed late, drop them off late i.e. do what suits him, the girls and I be damned!). Not much I can do about that.

I also find the old diversion tactics can still work - if I pick the right moment. Jollying her out of it is probably the most successful tool I have - got to pick the right time though and the right way to go about it. Pulling a cross eyes fish face often will do the trick & break the mood Grin

It's great to know we are not alone.

Iwaswatchingthat · 01/08/2013 11:21

Yeah distraction can work. We have to do lots of chivvying along.

E.g. No you can't wear your best party shoes for the park, but why not wear your trainers - you look great in them, they really suit you, everyone thinks you look really cool in them, gosh I wish I had a pair etc, etc. etc.

It works, but is exhausting!!!

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orangeandemons · 01/08/2013 11:25

She is very jealous of dp, in fact quite jealous in general. She hates it when me and dp hold hands, cuddle etc. She always worms her way in. She also only ever wants me, and tells dp to go awayGrin

She is given endless love, security and attention and it never seems enough. Short of hermetically sealing her to me I'm stumped tbh

orangeandemons · 01/08/2013 11:27

Have also found that head on confrontations never work. She just shouts backShock

Wheresmycaffeinedrip · 01/08/2013 11:44

I swear mine just likes to play the victim. She's not happy unless she can moan about not getting to do something. Well if it hadnt have taken the duration of dd2s nap to get you to put your crayons away then we would have been able to do something. I've lost count of how many times I've explained to her. If you do this then we can do that. But every time she will refuse to budge purely so she can then moan that we didn't get to play.

orangeandemons · 01/08/2013 11:48

Plus three, lol at book to add to collection. On my bookshelf we have 123 Magic. Parenting the Defiant Child, How to talk so Kids will listen, the Kazdan Method, amongst many many others, and...well...you know what...none of them actually work. My dd is a tough nut to crack, and will do what she wants. 123 Magic, ha ha ha.

orangeandemons · 01/08/2013 11:49

Mine whines too

Weegiemum · 01/08/2013 11:49

My 9yo dd2 has a meltdown of sorts most days, but only for about 20-30 mins before she apologises ans we move on.

Today it was her violin lesson (currently in progress) because I was such a bad mother for letting the lessons go on in the school holidays!!!

I just stand my ground every bloody time and it's getting easier!