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Three months old too young for sleep training?

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Mandinga79 · 20/08/2012 21:31

I'm in a quandary. My three month old has slept pretty much through the night (from about 9:30 until 4:30) since he was about two weeks old, for which I feel extremely lucky, especially as he is exclusively breast-fed. We have a strict bedtime routine in place of bath-feed-bed starting around 8pm every night. My problem is that he will not fall and then stay asleep unless he falls asleep on the breast, then is held for about an hour until he is deeply asleep, when he is transferred extremely carefully into his cot. On the rare occasion he wakes up in the night for a feed I can usually get him back in his cot after a 20 minute feed, without the holding part, mercifully. He does, however, need the feeding and holding to get him down for naps during the day as well which he HAS to have or he's demon-baby. I've tried putting him in his cot when he's drowsy but not asleep after a feed for naps or bedtime - this does not work for him. Eyelids fly open, he starts to look panicked and whimpering escalates into screaming. I tried pat-shh today for his morning nap which just ended up being a hands-on controlled cry. After screaming for an hour and a half to the point of gagging, he finally fell asleep exhausted, but only stayed asleep for half an hour, when he'd normally have a good two to three hours. I think he was starving from the effort of screaming. I really don't want him to get into the habit of relying on feeding then prolonged holding for all naps and bedtime as it will be hard to break later, especially as he'll probably be starting nursery around 9 months. But then I don't want to introduce a sleep training method that he's too young for and which may upset the good sleep habits he does have in place. Help? Please?

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EdgarAllanPond · 22/08/2012 13:38

i wouldn't bother with sleep training now beyond trying to let them self-settle, but i would be happy to let a 6 monther CIO and i suppose there is no magic time ...

12 weekers just don't have a settled enough pattern, they may sleep well for a few weeks, and then not. still co-sleeping with them helps.

bodyravagedbychildbirth · 22/08/2012 13:39

OP, my ds1 barely slept at all, day or night when he was a baby. I too tried cc at around 12 weeks out of sheer desperation. Needless to say, I felt crap about it and it didn't work. I do feel ashamed of it now but I also wanted to reassure you that you're not the only person to have tried it. I'm happy to say ds1 is now a happy and bright 4 yr old who sleeps brilliantly (rewards and a gro clock got us there when he was old enough to understand). Ds2 is now 5 weeks old. He sleeps not too bad (for a 5 week old!) but with the benefit of hindsight, and realising how quickly babies change, this time round I told myself I'd go with the flow, and just let ds2 'tell me' what he needs at the mo. I'm not planning on having anymore dcs so I love cuddling him to sleep, safe in the knowledge that he'll grow out of it soon enough.
I do hope you've had some useful advice on here Smile

seeker · 22/08/2012 13:40

"And allowing a baby to cry is not 'fundamentally wrong' - it is just not an approach you would agree with or follow."

No. Allowing a 12 week old baby to cry for an hour and a half when you could do something to stop it is fundamentally wrong.

RaisinDEtre · 22/08/2012 13:43

Totally with you, seeker

agnesf · 23/08/2012 01:13

Its really interesting to read this as when my DCs were babes (now 10+) routines & self settling etc was all the rage. I was too disorganised to do all that and bf them both to sleep for at least 6 months. Later we progressed to BF till drowsy and then hand holding in cot in dark. V tedious it all seemed at the time and was wracked with rod for own back type guilt.

I did the same for day time naps and eventually got a bit mean with them if they woke in the night and let them cry for 5 minutes or so before going in and cuddling them to sleep.

However now it all seems like an age ago - they are both great sleepers, will sleep in the pitch dark, don't have nightmares and love their beds. I like to think its because they associate sleep with safety and comfort but maybe they are just lazy Grin.

It is boring having to bf your baby to sleep but it might all work out in the end and books/ audio books etc can help.

Halfcups · 23/08/2012 01:21

Oh for christs sake pick him up, Give him a cuddle and feed him. I can t believe you re training him for anything at twelve weeks old. Has the world gone mad?!

CheerfulYank · 23/08/2012 01:31

I do think it goes a bit beyond a different approach, OP.

Being left alone to cry at a very young age is damaging . It really is. Research on the brain tells us this.

I'm not suggesting that all parents who do CC are damaging their children and I know everyone is trying to do what is best for their DC. I'm not saying everyone needs to do a family bed or rock their five year olds to sleep or whatever (I certainly didn't do those things) but very small babies need to know someone is coming to care for them to develop properly.

BigusBumus · 23/08/2012 08:04

Seeker, words fail me.

Poor OP bet you've made her day, as a new mum too. Sad

seeker · 23/08/2012 08:10

Eh?

Tangointhenight · 23/08/2012 08:20

OP I'm not going to flame you because you don't deserve it, when you're a first time mum it's hard enough but I will say I do think your baby is too young.

My DD slept through from 8 weeks but she always needed cuddled to sleep, held and kissed, and I did it. When she was 8 months I did cc to try and get her down for naps and it worked but she naturally grew out of needing cuddled before bed and now goes into her cot and falls asleep (she's 11months) and you know what I actually miss the cuddles, she is having none of it anymore :(

They are little for so short a time, enjoy your sniffly sleepy cuddles for as long as they last, there will come a time when they won't want you to cuddle them to sleep. You will find your baby will start naturally pushing bedtime forward, at 5 months DD was in bed for 8 and now she's in bed for 7 and sleeps through til 7.30am. Go with the flow and with your baby, and not with what everyone else's baby is doing.

BillComptonstrousers · 23/08/2012 08:36

OP, my earlier comment was directed at another poster, not you.

OliveandJim · 23/08/2012 12:48

I think OP has left the show.

Mandinga79 · 24/08/2012 03:44

Nah - OP's still here (and doing a 3am vigil with someone who'd much rather have a whinge than sleep, just in case I'd given a misrepresentation of perfect sleeping habits!)

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DontstepontheMomeRaths · 24/08/2012 08:53

Mine woke at 11pm, 2 (maybe 3am instead) and then anytime from 5am onwards for their first feed of the day at this age. You do have it good if it's usually 9.30 to 4.30 Wink

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