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Single jabs rather than MMR

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candr · 15/04/2012 20:04

I have been looking into getting DS the single vaccines rather than the MMR jab but am struggling to find somewhere that does it especially as the mumps vaccine is not being made as single jab dose now. Does anyone have any advice on where I can go for this as HV has to advise me to have the MMR and Dr has not been much help.

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awwwwmannnn · 01/05/2013 13:43

I think to be honest we all want the same thing for our DC, to be vacinnated against horrible diseases, but in a safe and informed manner.

when my DD (now 2.4) had her MMR i researched for months about it, and in the end it was a case (for me) of its better for her to have it, than not!

i live in South Wales where there is currently a massive outbreak of Measles (one man, 25, has died from it) - i have to say i am massively relieved that i made the decision to have her vacinnated.

there are currently centres open that will give your child the booster early due to the outbreak, which confused me to no end - i assumed (rightly or wrongly) that she would be covered from the first MMR - - the first MMR only gives approximately 90% immunity, whilst the booster takes them up to 99%!!! i've decided not to take her to have the booster just yet as we are not in the immediate outbreak area, and have no plans to do so.

i can honestly say i am glad she had the MMR and suffered no reactions to it at all.

i think its just one of those things (like politics) where everyone has their opinion on it, and no one is right or wrong - we shouldn't put people down or twist others words because it may go against what we said or think....as the saying goes "opinions are like arseholes, everyone has them" lol

not meant to offend, just my opinion Grin xx

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Oly4 · 14/05/2013 15:46

I am a health writer who sat through the GMC trial of Andrew Wakefield. He was completely discredited. I will be getting MMR for my DC, no hesitation. The resurgence of childhood diseases is frightening.

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Willowisp · 17/05/2013 22:54

what was Andrew Wakefield actually discredited for ? Everyone seems to bandy this one about, but as I understand it, he was discredited for his taking samples in a non-clinical environment ?

IMO where he took the samples is irrelevant, the fact that he found traces of the MMR in the bowel, IS important.

So links please for either scenario.

I'd also like some info & links about the fact that babies immune systems are fully developed by 12m.

It might be worth noting that we aren't a developing country, kids don't tend to be malnourished & are generally capable of coping with illness.

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Willowisp · 17/05/2013 22:58

awwwwmannnn no-one has died from measles in Wales, the man that died did have it, but as far as I'm aware, he didn't die from it.

"The resurgence of childhood diseases is frightening" Personally I think the amount of junk convenience food that kids eat is more frightening.

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BrainGoneAwol · 18/05/2013 10:14

Willow - try googling the article that was in the Times.

In summary, the claim is that he altered data concerning the study of 12 children concerning their conditions both before and after MMR (eg some already had reported developmental issues), he recruited participants from anti-vaccine groups, and he had a vested interest as he had already set up ventures that planned to make £m from testing this new syndrome he was 'discovering'.

Both sides argue about whether the result has ever been replicated.

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BrainGoneAwol · 18/05/2013 10:21

Oh and the BMJ experts who looked at thee raw data say it didn't show anything other than normal condition of the bowels.

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PJM18 · 18/05/2013 21:53

Hi. I'm trying to decide whether to give my children the single measles jab or not. Does anyone know, out of the 1000 or so children in the Swansea outbreak, how many had serious complications? Where would I find this information? The welsh public health website has numbers diagnosed etc but nothing about how many children developed complications.

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awwwwmannnn · 19/05/2013 19:32

well its been reported by the media that the man who died had measles and died from complications because of it - maybe they got it wrong and you got it right??

his post-mortem was inconclusive, but further tests have revealed his death was as a result of measles.

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balia · 19/05/2013 19:58

Can I just point out that mumps is not a friendly little disease unless you happen to be a pubescent boy? It can cause irreversible sensorineural deafness, aseptic meningitis and encephalitis. Before the MMR, mumps was the commonest cause of viral meningitis and one of the leading causes of hearing loss in younger children.

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