The cliches abounding in this topic

[LadyThompson]

I enjoy the Baby names section - I'm interested in names generally, and, furthermore, am expecting a DC2 so the choosing of names has some direct relevance to my life at the moment. However - I am wearing of some of the following:

1. People who claim to have overheard particular names called out in the supermarket (always derogatory in tone, as well);

1. People who say, in an uppity manner - well, it's ok for a BABY but it won't do for a lawyer/brain surgeon (my DP is a barrister and as any fule kno, as far as the legal profession is concerned, they have practioners with ALL sorts of names);

1. People who talk about names being common, 'chavvy' or 'council house'. I think this says FAR more about the people decrying the name than those contemplating using it ;

I could go on, but that's enough for starters. I'm not against robust discussion either, just a bit bored of the same old nonsense being trotted out...

Good point, Florence. I don't children really care what their friends' names are. We live in London and hear a huge variety of international names.

I have a

DD1 - boring
DD2 - chav (despite it being an old Hebrew biblical name)
DD3 - bit chavvy but also slang for fanjo also a New Testament village

Wonder what will be made of DSs name

names are very personal that's why I always tell anyone pregnant not to tell anyone their name list as someone will always try and put them off.

If you come onto MN with it's thousands of posters and ask about ANY name you will get positives and negatives, if you think everyone will love your choice you are very much mistaken.

Personally I hate hyphenated names (having one myself), anything spelt different for the sake of it and don't particularly like boys name starting with a K

Jeepers, lockets - who? I'm not much of a Sherlock How pathetic, though.

At the risk of being flamed here... people who call a name poncy or posh are surely just as bad as those who call a name/person chavvy/a chav? But people seem to get upset about being labelled chavvy etc whereas it appears to me to be more acceptable to call someone posh (which may well have been used in just as derogatory as way as "chav"). Why is this? It seems to be just as common.

And I also think that different names might seem normal to some people and unusual to others. It just depends on background etc. BTW my daughter's name is definitely what some people would call "posh", "poncey", "very unusual" etc, but others, and most of our friends don't see it as that. Anyway that is sort of irelevant to this discussion, I just wanted to join in!

I really think names are such a personal thing and what is one person's chavvy may be another person's posh etc etc. And I love my duaghter's name (obviously) so I don't much care what others think anyway (we only told family before she was born). But I am rather a fan of the baby names topic as I think it's funny...

That's rotten, Lockets (and needless, and just, well...weird). Saskia is a very nice name. Ignore these nutters who posted.

Kings, I don't like the calls of posh either. I do think chavvy is worse but both terms are reductive and grotty.

chav = Council Housed And Violent
taken from gypsy word 'chavi' i believe.

I just looked on the babynamefinder and looked up Saskia. It just says 'cheeky vibrant little girls'.

Added by somebody called KeithTalent. Am I misssing something? Not the next Miss Marple me obviously.

Somebody swinging their axe around...... The internet ey? I sometimes wonder why I keep coming back to it. It is a box of frogs.

Wow. I just looked it up and I am shocked. How can somebody be so nasty? It's not just nasty but it's vindictive too, coming back at the same name again knowing it's your daughter's name. Wow...... Hope you're ok. Even though it's not RL, guerilla keyboard warriors can upset one sometimes......

lockets - and

It really is the height of sadness and being a complete loser if you search a Parenting Site to write comments like those after a babies name and to do it more than once

Says it all about the type of person who does that really

lockets - It must be HORRID to see words like that next to your child's name.

I can only assume that the silly comments must have been written by a child/teen - and best ignored (until deleted by MNHQ)

imo, MN should have a filter to block those kind of terms being added to the baby name finder.

MN should definately have a filter to block these kinds of comments. They should be checked before posted!

Just checked my childrens' names and my ds's name includes the following comment: "retard parents who want their child bullied" .

I agree with kingsroadie - although the words 'posh/poncey' might not sound as nasty as 'chav/council' they are all bandied around with the same kind of snobbery on MN.

I do find it very interesting to hear all the different views on various names but I don't understand why it seems there's a pretense that we're all from exactly the same class/background/area/lifestyle, somewhere in the hallowed ground between 'posh' and 'chav' and then insult anyone who supposedly indicates (by their name choices) that they might deviate from that sanitised middle ground?

Oh and I'd never even heard the term 'council' used in THAT way before MN, it's just yuk!

What a sad, lonely person that must be - who has nothing better to do than write nasty, unjustified comments about other peoples' names .

Lockets, I know it's not exactly the same, but I felt pretty shell-shocked when a guerilla keyboard warrior outed me for having the prerogative nerve to tell lies on the internet!!! and for the heinous crime of 'bigging up my children's names' and for being a snob! Like on this board, I am the one whose snobbery needs to be reined in?!!?!? Snobbery = having gently steered people away from Chardonnay and Neveah and hyphenated names??. (yes, guilty I suppose!).

I had naively thought that that was like the last bastion of common decency and online etiquette, that you never, ever outed anybody no matter how much you hated their posts. But I was wrong. So that's a lesson learnt.

Lockets - - glad the offending poster has been banned.

Again, not the same, but similar - I once set up a facebook group I forgot to make private and a random, very angry American (which has no bearing on why, he just happened to be American) boy/man started psting a lot of abuse on the group, calling us all a bunch of c**ts, and soe other truly awful language for no apparent reason. There are just some complete psychos sitting on the internet who are out to cause trouble and make people miserable, which is sad and pathetic and quite frankly, a very odd thing to do. They are obviously unhappy in their little lives and trying to spread the unhappiness. Sorry you have had one be horrid about your daughter's name - it's a very personal thing. I love it btw...

CakeandRoses - I agree with you - we're not all from the same background so why pretend...and what may be normal to one group of people isn't to others - it works both ways ("posh" and "chav" or whatever you want to call it). However, I suppose that if you come on here you will get people from all backgrounds commenting on a name so there are bound to be differing opinions. I tend to try and be slightly conservatve in my comments - erring on the side of caution. eg - commmenting if I like it and maybe just putting - "not my favourite/ I wouldn't choose it myself" or "what about x". Or I don't comment at all if I don't have anything nice to say (although I do realise the point is to get an idea if people don't like it too) But then, maybe I am a bit of a wuss!