Judas?

[Zil131]

DH is thinking 'Judas Piest' - cool.
I'm thinking biblical based insult "You Judas..."
He would probaly be a 'Jude', but I'm a fan of traditional names on birth cerificates.

Opinions..??

Yay for Jude the Obscure

Boo for Jude Law

St. Jude is the patron saint of hopeless causes.

He is another one of the apostles (not sure what number he had ) and at the last supper but not the one who betrayed Jesus.

So if being at the last supper is important to you, then you get the name Jude with no associations of greedy betrayal and suicide

Is he intending that the whole name be Judas Priest? My first thought was Bob Dylan. Jude is a very cool name though.

More decent ones than bad ones in the Bible

jude is cool

wouldn't be my choice.

Does anyone say "you Judas" these days though?

I don't know about that Judas was the Fall Guy and someone had to do it theory. It was going to happen anytime really. Wasn't the first attempt to have Jesus arrested, was it? I seem to remember the Sadducees and the Pharisees banding together and sending out officers to arrest Jesus earlier and them returning empty handed, saying they had never heard anyone speak like him before. If Judas hadn't denounced him that day, he would have been arrested another day, it was coming to that anyhow.

I heard quite an interesting sermon on Judas - the argument was that Judas had misunderstood what sort of Messiah Jesus was, and thought of him as the the great war lord that was going to kick the Romans out, and when he realised that Jesus had totally different intentions, Judas felt that he needed to get rid of Jesus so that the real Messiah could arrive and begin a campaign of war. So Judas was not so much a mercenary betrayer as a man who was focused on the material rather than the spiritual, and who was so interested in getting rid of the Romans that he failed to notice he was spending time with the son of God.

Yeah, I've heard the "Judas was framed" (or at least led into temptation) argument before and it makes sense. If it was all part of God's great plan, then God needed Judas to betray Jesus...

Grendel, have heard that theory too - Jesus was clearly the wrong kind of messiah as far as Judas was concerned!

judas= a life of derision and piss taking.think again

who is judas priest?

ffs its a shit name dont be fking ridic

what custardo said

I've thought up some similar alternatives that might do equally well?

Nero
Caligula
Adolf
Attila
Idi
Pol Pot
Chairman (Mao)
Manson (after Charles Manson)
Beelsebub

See what you think. Run them by your DH.

i think it's fab

Adolf or Beelzibub is better.

There's a whole other thread in the idea of Biblical Names You Would Never Call Your Children!

Jude is also Biblical of course - it is the name of the second last book of the bible which is the Letter to Jude.

I have had some inspiration!

Not being sarcastic this time

What about Jethro? I'm thinking of your DH. Weren't Jethro Tull a similar sort of group to Judas Priest? They were, weren't they?

And Jethro has a fairly harmless life in the Bible, from memory. No pieces of silver involved ...

Really, what do you think?

we were discussing this with friends in the wee small hours of friday night oddly

one friend suggested there was more then just Judas Iscariot in the bible

they were right - the other one was Judas Maccabeus or Judas the Maccabee

he was an apostle too as mrsgboring mentioned at the start of the thread

It doesn't matter how many there were-Judas means betrayer. Even those who don't know Bible stories will have heard the term, and 30 pieces of silver-it crops up in fiction, films, even comedy programmes.

I always felt slightly sorry for Judas, he was merely a pawn in the plan wasn't he? And then he hangs himself. Very sad.

Wouldn't call a baby Judas though... not even in tribute to Judas Priest. I don't think people would get that.

I don't think Jethro Tull and Judas Priest are quite the same genre of music, personally. One does hippy shit jingle jangle and the other does heavy metal.

Jude has been completely ruined by Law.

I know a 7-year old Jude. I quite like it - but it's not short for Judas. Judas is a complete no-no for me.

The name Judas itself actually sounds quite nice to me, nice on the ear. However, if people take Judas as a synonym for backstabber, it isn't great, is it?

We had a thread a while back I recall with someone considering naming her ds Cain. She had never heard of the biblical Cain though.

Don't see the attraction personally in naming your dc after a well-known "bad guy" really, biblical or otherwise. Darth Vader etc

Judas no, Jude yes! I know a couple of baby Jude's, I love it.

yes Jude is just cool jingly jangly Beatles music. Judas - ultimate betrayer (even if that's based on misconceptions)