What determines a name to be "chavvy" where does this come from?

[Dozymare]

Is it popularity? Class? Celeb?

I am considering a name for my soon to be born DD and on a thread on this here board, saw that it had "chavvy" conotations....what is the basis of a name being "chavvy"?? Is Chavvy another word for common (common as in popular or common as in Vicky Pollard?? Is it not ok to be different as it seems to me that names that are not run of the mill are deemed in this way.....

I'm curious, please humour me!

yep, it's very judgemental. You can have different in a good way (nice middle class way) like Ophelia/Olivia/Euphemia

but not in a chavvy way like Britney-Lavelle

Anything where there is a rap star, celebrity connotations deems to denote chavvy.

For fecks sake don't post the name, you will get slated.

Call him it, I'm sure it will be lovely

Chav is a controversial and actually pretty objectionable label aimed at usually working class people who are interested in designer clothes as far as I understand it.

It's rude, smug and undermining and I would not use the term myself.

I haven't explained well so will try to find a link.

Chav Test.

well i would ignore it

if you like the name

A young working class person who dresses in sports clothes according to this.

so spidermama is Chav the new common?

It is ridiculous IMO that a name can have such class conotations (supposedly)in this day and age.......

i suspect chav is becoming as dated as sloane ranger tbh

endless debates have certainly made it boring

It is ridiculous and it certainly isn't the opinion of everyone.

I think you should rise above it. It's another form of intolerance, and lazy stereo typing.

Is it your Talula thread? (Sorry I've spelt it wrongly I know) I LOVE the name. I know one and her parents call her Tula for short. Lovely family. Not a shell suit in sight.

names have always had class connotations

twas ever thus

I think Enid is right, sadly. Names do have class (and cultural) connotations - its just the way it is, although a lot of names are very 'neutral'. I have the opposite problem to you, Dozy. I am petrified my girl's name is too 'posh' and has sloaney connotations when we are not that sort of a family at all!

I think Chav has become a term for 'lower class' despite where it originated from. Don't know if you remember Wayne and Waynetta Slob (Harry Enfield), they called their kid Frogmella and Spud-u-like!( Spud-you-likay!!!).

Chav certainly doesn't mean 'common' as in 'commonplace'. There are FOUR Olivia's at my son's playschool and we do not live in a middle class area at all. I would say that name has now become 'neutral' by virtue of it being so frequently used. My ds is Oliver and I would say the same, used to be quite 'posh' and isn't anymore (thankfully).

It's all so subjective anyway. My Mum the other day said Amelie is pretentious, but Aimée (pronounced Em-ay) is not! Errrrrrrr...yeah!

What does Chav stand for actually? Isn't it something like council house something something...? Or is it not an acronmym at all? Thank you for your indulgence...

Talullah nice name btw

naming a child after a character in a soap opera, or after a celeb or celebs baby is considered 'chavvy', I think.

Council Housed And Violent I've heard as well as CHeltenham AVerage

of course names have connotations.they convey class/social status and prejudices result

even before the label chavvy was applied to names they would have been called snobby/common/weird etc

one person chav= another person exotic

name threads usually end in humphy faces

someone posts i love vagus hallux, so exotic.

someone else rocks up naw it's chavvy

oi shut up thats my weans name

When I was at school chavs were known as "Traceys and Sharons". And "Kevins".

It was snobby and horrible but, as others have said, there's nothing new about this.

And these threads always become a bunfight.

There's a v interesting chapter in a book called Freakonomics about how African Americans often give their dcs made up names like Lavonya and how people with such names tend to do worst in life, while African Americans with conventional names like James and Caroline tend to succeed. All sorts of reasons for this, no time to summarise it now, but it's fascinating

BTW I'm sure none of this applies to the name you're thinking of. If you love it, go ahead and use it and sod what others think. You'll never please everyone with a name

Can anyone explain what the heck Cheltenham Average actually means? Doesn't make sense to me - or am I being a bit slow?

Btw I live in Cheltenham and there are a lot of chavs here..!

i always thought cheltenham was genteel?

Dozy - Tallulah is most definitely NOT a "chavvy" name. We have friends with a Tallulah - they are the polar opposite.

in newcastle 'they' are known as charvas. the word charva is apparently a old romany name, from the gypsys,

we have been saying the word charva for a lot longer than the new updated version of chav.

tbh i think its a horrid word, and i think whoever posted that it means council housed and violent, is very presumptious. [sp]
i live in ch, and to my knowledge so do loads of 'normal' working people.

people should get to know people before handing out labels.

According to that quiz I am a chav cos I buy own brand stuff, use money off coupons and call my grandmother nan!!!

Hmmm... not sure where the term comes from but is definitely overused to describe things people don't like or don't agree with.

I am 43% chav according to that!

am i bovvered?? lol

Well - I don't normally "get" the chav thing but I did hear a name being shouted after a toddler today and I would think it defines chav (and sorry to be judgey judgey). It was......

Diamond-Lee

.....I concur that class sterotyping (whether by name choice or otherwise) is lazy, and displays a distinct lack of imagination and empathy on the part of those who employ it.

However, it is also very funny. I for one have never allowed my laziness or lack of imagination to interfere with a cheap laugh.....

.....and however "nice" it may sound to say that certain names do not (sometimes) have social connotations it is, sadly, untrue.

I will willingly purchase and eat headgear of anyone's nomination if they can cite me an example of a Karley, Chardonnay-Storm or Konnor who has taken part in (say) the Henley Regatta.....

(PS Diamond-Lee. That's a cracker! All the better for the androgyny)

Yay 30% chav, god knows what the other 70% is (embarrassed at answering yes to the trisha question).

Are the chavvy connections likely to remain connected? If it's the same as some z list celebs' sprog for example it's unlikely to be associated with that in future. If you like it go for it, sod em i say.