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Should I call my daughter Aoibhín in England?

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lovebeingmuma · 05/08/2025 19:23

Will my daughter hate me for calling her a name no one can pronounce?

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gingercat02 · 06/08/2025 20:59

Lurina · 06/08/2025 19:44

I think stress varies with dialect.

For example Ciarán is KIER-awn in Connacht and Kier-AWN in Munster.

I’d say Aoibhín could be EVE-een or Eve-EEN depending on the speaker.

I'm from the North. My godson is Ciarán. I pronounce both syllables equally. Kier-an

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:04

Isitreallysohard · 06/08/2025 05:44

It's only ever English people who complain about these kinds of things, literally every* *other person in the world can manage 🤣

Nope. Try having a name beginning with “H” in a Russian-speaking country. I was told “that is a very stupid name” by one colleague! (I have an entirely normal English name. Two syllables, and it is even phonetic)

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/08/2025 21:10

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:04

Nope. Try having a name beginning with “H” in a Russian-speaking country. I was told “that is a very stupid name” by one colleague! (I have an entirely normal English name. Two syllables, and it is even phonetic)

Phonetic in English isn't much use in a country that speaks a different language...

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:11

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/08/2025 21:10

Phonetic in English isn't much use in a country that speaks a different language...

It was spelled phonetically in Cyrillic as well!

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:12

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:11

It was spelled phonetically in Cyrillic as well!

And that was rather my point, that English people do not have a monopoly on being rude about foreign names.

MovingBird123 · 06/08/2025 21:13

I know a few people with Irish names. Wouldn't have known how to spell/pronounce the names at first, but after hearing once it's fine. People get over these things. The accent on the "i" might be a bit annoying for forms etc.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/08/2025 21:14

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:11

It was spelled phonetically in Cyrillic as well!

I'm a bit confused then. Why is the h a problem if it is spelt phonetically in Cyrillic?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/08/2025 21:15

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:12

And that was rather my point, that English people do not have a monopoly on being rude about foreign names.

There are gobshites everywhere 🤷‍♀️

Lurina · 06/08/2025 22:41

gingercat02 · 06/08/2025 20:59

I'm from the North. My godson is Ciarán. I pronounce both syllables equally. Kier-an

Yes, á is pronounced differently in Ulster, it doesn’t give an aw sound like it does in the other dialects.

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 23:23

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/08/2025 21:14

I'm a bit confused then. Why is the h a problem if it is spelt phonetically in Cyrillic?

The letter “H” doesn’t start words in Russian. Therefore apparently a stupid name 🤷‍♀️

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/08/2025 23:39

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 23:23

The letter “H” doesn’t start words in Russian. Therefore apparently a stupid name 🤷‍♀️

Can you explain to me like I'm an idiot please?

If there is no h in Russian, which Google tells me is the case, how can it be spelt phonetically in Cyrillic with a h sound? Or why would the Russian have been specifically focused on the h? It's a different alphabet so realistically, no name in Russian starts with any letter in the Latin alphabet.

I'm just curious as I find that sort of stuff interesting.

2024BabyNameIndecision · 07/08/2025 07:11

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/08/2025 23:39

Can you explain to me like I'm an idiot please?

If there is no h in Russian, which Google tells me is the case, how can it be spelt phonetically in Cyrillic with a h sound? Or why would the Russian have been specifically focused on the h? It's a different alphabet so realistically, no name in Russian starts with any letter in the Latin alphabet.

I'm just curious as I find that sort of stuff interesting.

The letter "x" in Cyrillic makes a sound a bit like the end of "loch" in English (often represented in Latin script by using "kh") and is the most similar sound to "h" in English. But as @LemondrizzleShark says, Russian names don't start with X, so its very uncommon to them. For our names that start with "H", they often use a "G" sound instead. So Harry Potter is actually translated in the Russian versions as "Garry Potter".

OchonAgusOchonOh · 07/08/2025 09:12

2024BabyNameIndecision · 07/08/2025 07:11

The letter "x" in Cyrillic makes a sound a bit like the end of "loch" in English (often represented in Latin script by using "kh") and is the most similar sound to "h" in English. But as @LemondrizzleShark says, Russian names don't start with X, so its very uncommon to them. For our names that start with "H", they often use a "G" sound instead. So Harry Potter is actually translated in the Russian versions as "Garry Potter".

So does that mean that her name, which begins with a h, was translated to start with an X, rather than the more normal G? Who would have decided the translation? Is it just based on sounds?

The person telling her her name was stupid was obviously an idiot regardless.

Victoria39 · 07/08/2025 16:40

SingedElbow · 06/08/2025 08:33

Because people use names from their cultures. I would no more call my child Eve, Elizabeth or Emma than you would call your child Afua, Hafsat or Nkiru.

And before you trot out that tired old Little Englander stuff about using names from wherever you’re living — people move around. My child no longer lives in the country he was born. I spent thirty years away from my home country. I’m certainly not going to choose a name based on whether English people who can’t or won’t get their heads around other orthographies think it’s ok.

You lost the argument when you said little England’s stuff. 😂It’s projecting. It’s racist. It’s immature.

I didn’t mention what race I am. You assumed I’m English. 🤔

deeahgwitch · 07/08/2025 17:50

Love your comment that there are gobsh*tes everywhere
@OchonAgusOchonOh and so true 😂

AncientBallerina · 07/08/2025 17:58

You could go for an Irish name that’s easy to pronounce like Cara or with anglicised spelling like Maeve. Ava is very close to Aoife.

TheOriginalEmu · 07/08/2025 20:16

LemondrizzleShark · 06/08/2025 21:04

Nope. Try having a name beginning with “H” in a Russian-speaking country. I was told “that is a very stupid name” by one colleague! (I have an entirely normal English name. Two syllables, and it is even phonetic)

That’s why Harry Potter is called Gary in Russia 😂

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