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Eira or Iris?

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Taggys · 17/09/2024 19:41

Hello,

We need a girls name that works in both Scandinavian and English languages. We love:

Eira
Iris
Elsa/Elsie

These names sound quite similar, but which one is nicer?

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:21

felissamy · 17/09/2024 20:08

Eira ...especially if more of a Winter baby, for the association with snow. Beautiful.

Thank you so much, and between Eira and Vera, which one would you choose?

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:22

Moreteaandchocolate · 17/09/2024 20:48

Eira is my favourite 🤩

I also like Iris and Elsie.

😍 Thank you so much, and between Eira and Vera, which one would you choose?

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:22

OtterOnAPlane · 17/09/2024 21:32

Eira.

Really lovely and not overused.

😊 Thank you so much, and between Eira and Vera, which one would you choose?

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Elyalbert · 18/09/2024 12:23

Eira - yes
Vera - no

Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:24

Molone · 17/09/2024 21:33

Eira, although as far as I know it’s a Welsh name. Would that bother you?

Thank you 😊 I know it's both a Scandi and a Welsh name...wouldn't bother me that much as we live on the Welsh borders and have Scandinavian family.

Between Eira and Vera, which one would you choose? 🤔

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:25

Pistachiochiochio · 17/09/2024 21:33

Are you Welsh

No, Swedish where this is also a common name 😊

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:26

anxietyaardvark · 17/09/2024 22:20

Eira means snow in Welsh. Love it.

😍 Thank you so much, and between Eira and Vera, which one would you choose?

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:28

IamnotwhouthinkIam · 17/09/2024 22:34

Eira is beautiful imo, it has such a pretty sound that I’m glad it’s become more popular (I’ve only heard it pronounced as Ay-ra personally). I love the dual meaning depending on which country you are in (Snow/ Norse Goddess) and it would be my pick for anyone who wants a name familiar in both the UK and Scandinavia.

Elsa is pretty too, has a sort of retro classic feel to me and would be my second pick. Frozen doesn’t seem to be going away, but it’s hardly that bad a thing and she might love the connection when little. Elsie is less my taste, a bit too “Victorian Scullery maid” for me.

Iris has a lovely meaning (flower and Greek Goddess) but objectively the sound is quite harsh imo so it’s my least fave of the 3. Fab song though!

Edited

Thank you for your thorough answer 😍 I also think Eira is the best of both worlds here...would you prefer Vera though? One last name to throw into the mix 🤪

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:32

Jessieshome · 18/09/2024 11:13

Eira is beautiful.

But you say 'English' languages. If you are going to give her a Welsh name (I'm pretty certain it's not English too) you'd probably need to refer to it as Welsh or 'British languages' or the Welsh nationalists will be after you!😃

I have no idea if it's easy for Scandinavians to pronounce/understand.

Good point! 🤭 I should have said Welsh/Scandi name. Eira is also commonly used in Sweden, Norway and Finland, hence why we love it.

Just wondering, do you prefer Vera to Eira?

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Chipsintheair · 18/09/2024 12:32

BestIsWest · 18/09/2024 11:17

Would you pronounce Eira Eye-ra or Aye-ra? (I hear it pronounced both ways, my cousin used the first).

Aye is pronounced eye, but Eira is air-uh, like Irish Eire.

I like Eira best because I love Welsh names.

Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:33

BestIsWest · 18/09/2024 11:17

Would you pronounce Eira Eye-ra or Aye-ra? (I hear it pronounced both ways, my cousin used the first).

We would go with Eye-ra 😊 Would you prefer Vera to Eira?

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Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:36

Enko · 18/09/2024 11:18

Eira. As Iris is said so differently in the Scandinavian languages.

Thank you!! 😊 And would you prefer Vera to Eira?

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KnickerlessParsons · 18/09/2024 12:48

In my area of Wales it is pronounced like Air-ruh (as in the air we breathe) and the r should be rolled, my husband says this name beautifully in his Welsh accent.

I'm Welsh and all the Eiras I know pronounce it more like eye-ra. Not quite, but that's the closest I can get in English.

MelodyMalone · 18/09/2024 13:07

Is Vera making a comeback? It feels old-fashioned and makes me think of Vera Duckworth, or Vera from the TV/book series (or aloe vera😄), but I have heard it once or twice lately.

Jessieshome · 18/09/2024 13:30

Taggys · 18/09/2024 12:32

Good point! 🤭 I should have said Welsh/Scandi name. Eira is also commonly used in Sweden, Norway and Finland, hence why we love it.

Just wondering, do you prefer Vera to Eira?

I definitely prefer Eira, Vera is still a bit too dowdy old lady for me, but I'm possibly a bit older than you (early 40's) so maybe it's further away from you than me that you don't associate it with very old ladies, or Vera from the detective books/TV!

Having said all that, to contradict myself Eira is kind of a little old lady name in my area of Wales! It's just more unusual to me as I was born and bred in England.

If you can roll your 'r's Eira is particularly beautiful :)

BestIsWest · 18/09/2024 13:34

Chipsintheair · 18/09/2024 12:32

Aye is pronounced eye, but Eira is air-uh, like Irish Eire.

I like Eira best because I love Welsh names.

Not by me! Air is different again, sort of flatter. Maybe ay to rhyme with hay. But I know what you mean! We could be here all day with differences in Welsh pronounciation.

It’s a beautiful name though.

JustDeserts · 18/09/2024 13:38

@Chipsintheair , Isn't it more like Ey-ra or Ay-ra? I think the Norse one is more Eye-ra.

Button28384738 · 18/09/2024 13:52

KnickerlessParsons · 18/09/2024 12:48

In my area of Wales it is pronounced like Air-ruh (as in the air we breathe) and the r should be rolled, my husband says this name beautifully in his Welsh accent.

I'm Welsh and all the Eiras I know pronounce it more like eye-ra. Not quite, but that's the closest I can get in English.

Exactly, Eira in wales is not pronounced Air-ah , Eye-ra is closer but still not right.

The E at the beginning is pronounced more like Eh so Ehee-ra

If you live in the UK I probably wouldn't give her a Welsh name that you're going to pronounce incorrectly (and a lot of people won't know how to pronounce), even if it is a Scandinavian name too - because everyone in the UK will assume it's Welsh

JustDeserts · 18/09/2024 13:58

Elsa seems a lot easier. I've always liked it although it was more 'the lioness' then not 'let it go'.
Vera is nice but a bit 'Vera Duckworth' and that's not good.

Santasbigredbobblehat · 18/09/2024 14:03

Vera so lovely, the sound of it. No one over a certain age knows about Vera Duckworth. I have an Iris (older), and we meet another one occasionally, whereas we meet a lot of Elsie types names.

Tapestree · 18/09/2024 14:09

It's EH-rah in Welsh. If you live near Wales, I think you should go for the local pronounciation- She will be forever be explaining to people that yes, she knows that it's pronounced one way here but she pronounces hers differently. It's a hell of a burden to give a child imo.

2k2j · 18/09/2024 14:14

I don't think Eira "works" that well in English, regardless of origin. Several posters have mentioned confusion over pronunciation. It would be a difficult name to make out on the phone as well.

I would therefore go for Iris.

Atishooo · 18/09/2024 15:15

Eira is lovely, Vera is just old lady frumpiness. Still reminds me of Corrie.

Jessieshome · 18/09/2024 15:29

Button28384738 · 18/09/2024 13:52

Exactly, Eira in wales is not pronounced Air-ah , Eye-ra is closer but still not right.

The E at the beginning is pronounced more like Eh so Ehee-ra

If you live in the UK I probably wouldn't give her a Welsh name that you're going to pronounce incorrectly (and a lot of people won't know how to pronounce), even if it is a Scandinavian name too - because everyone in the UK will assume it's Welsh

I pronounce Eh and Air pretty much the same, Eh is just a bit shorter.

I think Ehee-ra is definitely the closest way to describe it and what I was trying to get at, well done!

It's very rarely pronounce Eye-ra in Wales, well where I am anyway, except by English people. But the Welsh language and pronunciations vary from county to county almost as much as in England, so it's hardly one rule for pronunciation even in the country of it's origin. I wouldn't be surprised if North Walians have a completely different word for snow.🙂

timoteigirl · 18/09/2024 16:06

I can understand that people like the Welsh name Eira because of the meaning. In my experience it is not a common name in Scandinavian countries or Finland. Elvi, Elvira, Eira and Airi are what someone else called before "old dowdy lady names" the type of name that were not common to begin with and unlikely to become popular again. As an example, similar to Bertha in UK.

I like Iris but the different ways to say it would put me off.
Ariel? Rie? (from Marie)

What about Ilse instead of Elsa/ Elsie? Eloise? Lovisa? Louisa? Eleanor / Leonora / Leonore? Eva?

Vera is common at least in Sweden. What about Wilma/ Vilma? Mira?