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Eve and Steve- thoughts ?

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CamdenQueen · 19/06/2024 00:53

We love the name Evelyn for a girl and would shorten to Eve. Only issue is my husband is called Stephen and goes by Steve with everyone bar his parents. Do you think Eve and Steve are too similar? Will they sound silly together? My husband assures me nobody would make the connection or think about them rhyming m. Would appreciate honest opinions

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OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 20/06/2024 00:11

I wonder if Evel Knievel's official birth name was actually Evelyn Kniamhelyn?!

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 20/06/2024 00:37

I'm still utterly bewildered as to how a man called Stephen could name his DD Stephanie and not even realise that it was basically the female equivalent of his own name.

Still, you get some children with very unfortunate initials that their parents apparently never took a few seconds to bother thinking about. We also know of a little boy named 'Issac' (but pronounced like Isaac), because his mum and dad - who are never off Facebook, so almost always have a phone right there in their hand - didn't trouble themselves to Google the name first. It isn't a case of scrawling 'brockily' on your shopping list and reckoning that it doesn't matter if it's right, as you know what you mean; this is an actual person's officially-registered name for life.

HoratioNightboy · 20/06/2024 00:39

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 20/06/2024 00:00

I'd love to know the reasoning behind people's choices to name their children after themselves - exactly the same name or clearly intended as a variation of it.

Is it arrogance, lack of imagination, seeing their child as an extension of them, or what?

I'm not a fan personally, but I can understand it more if it's after a grandparent, who is unlikely to be living in the same household; or after a parent who died before/whilst the child was born; but otherwise? I'd love to know the thinking behind it.

Most people seem to understand how it can get confusing or slightly more complicated when you get two people with the same name in a class or workplace - when there was no way of anybody knowing or preventing it beforehand. But when you know for a fact that you have a Paul in your family and you're going to introduce a second one - especially as they're likely to share the same surname as well...?

In some places it's a tradition that some are happy to carry on. In Scotland for example, it was historically traditional to name babies after someone, resulting in a fairly narrow name pool until the advent of film, which introduced a wider variety of names. The older naming patterns were soon dropped but many continued to used family names in some form or another, e.g. by including them as middle names, and some adopted patterns still in use today. I know quite a few families who always name the first son after the father, and yes, it is unusual to hear of new baby Gary or Stewart in amongst all the Arlos and Noahs, but there is also something touching about having unbroken link to your ancestors.

More directly, it's not generally that confusing as people will often be known as
different versions of the name e.g. a family with many Jameses (very common inn Scotland) will usually have a Jim, Jimmy, Jamie, Jamesie, Wee James, Old James, Wee Jim, Big Jimmy, Hamish etc. So everyone always knows whose being talked about.

My name, also my mother's name, has been used for women in my family for at least two hundred years, and I like that it's unusual in my peer group, and also that I can look at a person in my family tree from nine generations back and think, "I'm named after her".

Beenaboutabit · 20/06/2024 00:49

I love it

SnowFrogJelly · 20/06/2024 00:50

Really not a problem

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 20/06/2024 00:52

I know quite a few families who always name the first son after the father, and yes, it is unusual to hear of new baby Gary or Stewart in amongst all the Arlos and Noahs, but there is also something touching about having unbroken link to your ancestors.

But - especially if we're talking about the male line and tradition - isn't that precisely the exact purpose of a surname? It might be a weird analogy, but I see it a bit like with cars - where they all start with the same maker's 'family' name, to show their brand/provenance/heritage/where they belong, but then they all have distinctive model names. You don't get the tiny two-seater Ford Mondeo, the small family hatchback Ford Mondeo, the large Ford Mondeo saloon, the Ford Mondeo SUV and the enormous Ford Mondeo seven-seater - with an additional Ford Mondeo van for work if somebody in the family is a tradesperson.

I don't necessarily see a big issue with naming your child after a grandparent/great-grandparent for purposes of honour/tradition or whatever; but I just find it bizarre to have two close people in the same family, whose lives may overlap for 60 years, with the exact same name.

I assumed that most people would be excited about the idea of being responsible for a brand new life and thinking long and hard before deciding upon what they consider to be the perfect name to give to him/her, rather than knowing 30 years before the (potential) baby's birth what the name would be; but I suppose folk are all different.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 20/06/2024 00:54

I like Evelyn shortened to Evie - would you consider that as it’s a little different to Steve?

CamdenQueen · 20/06/2024 08:38

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 20/06/2024 00:54

I like Evelyn shortened to Evie - would you consider that as it’s a little different to Steve?

Definitely think she would be Eve or Evie day to day, I love both and it’s nice that you can have more than one nickname for her. My given name is technically a shortened version of a more traditional name (think Cathy instead of Catherine) and I always wished I could have had some sort of nickname

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JazbayGrapes · 20/06/2024 13:03

really cool. go for it. We dont see that many young Steves anymore

RailwayCutting · 20/06/2024 13:57

Steve is the dad

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