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Lysander pronunciation?

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tessdurbyfield · 16/06/2024 10:50

We really like Lysander, possibly nickname Xander.

However, perplexed as to how it should be pronounced and wondered whether it's regional like bath or barth.

I thought it would be Ly-saRn-der, then Xander pronounced with a similar 'ah' sound as this is how we would pronounce Alexander where we're from (South)

Seems online like many pronounce it Ly-Sand-er, in which case presumably Xander would be a short 'a' sound which doesn't sound right with our accent.

Thoughts?

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tessdurbyfield · 16/06/2024 12:20

Alexander definitely 'ah' sound down here!

It’s the ‘R’ that some posters have mentioned I don’t understand.

Surely its Alex - and (like the word) - er

I don’t understand where the R is.

Bilingualspingual · 16/06/2024 16:02

The ‘r’ comes from some accents using a long a and some a short. I’m Scottish so the r wouldn’t exist in a long a in my accent but that’s what they mean.
I would also be conscious that the Z in Xander should really be a soft S from Lysander but maybe that’s nit-picking. I like the full name - he maybe we’ll end up with a nickname you hadn’t intended but isn’t that quite nice?

nocoolnamesleft · 16/06/2024 16:04

Lysander, Alexander, and Xander all with a short a here.

muddyford · 16/06/2024 16:09

Ly-sander would be my southern pronunciation.

muddyford · 16/06/2024 16:12

WaftherAngelsthroughtheskies · 16/06/2024 12:12

I'm a southern RP speaker.
Alexander/Alexandra/Alexandrina- long A
Lysander- short A

Xander when short for Alexander- either is fine, but I'd personally go with short A, as the other short version of Alexander (other than Alex of course) is Sandy. And Xan would be short A.

Xander when short for Lysander- short A:
Xavier/Xav would be short A too.

Xander as a stand alone name, as in the big, toothy, predatory fish-- long A

Strangely, I am southern and pronounce the fish with a short a. As did most of my sailing club. Also southern.

midgetastic · 16/06/2024 16:21

Lie sand er

Picked up from watching some Shakespeare plays on tv and live

Sue152 · 16/06/2024 16:27

Ly-sarn-der sounds pretentious to my ear. I would expect people in posh parts of London to say it that way. I'm from the SW and would say Ly-sand-er.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/06/2024 16:28

I am English, and would pronounce it Ly-SAN-der.

darksigns · 16/06/2024 16:44

I would pronounce Lysander with SAND and Xander with ZAND.
Both sound distinctly different in my accent, one wouldn’t be a natural shortening of the other.

BarryKentPoet · 16/06/2024 16:49

I'm Scottish, Ly - sander and Xander sound the same to me.

toomanytonotice · 16/06/2024 16:58

No one would pronounce it Liz-and- er then?

never even occurred to me anyone would use lie-sarn-der

SuperFishy · 16/06/2024 16:58

Ly-sand-er here, and Z-and-er for Xander. Sarn in the middle sounds like someone trying desperately to be posh.

TeenLifeMum · 16/06/2024 17:00

Lysander road is a main road in my town and here it’s pronounced lie-sander. we’re in the south of England.

Icanwalkintheroom · 16/06/2024 17:04

Luzina · 16/06/2024 11:13

Yes i agree- i would say the long A in Alexander but short A in Lysander. I have typically RP accent

Yes this for me too.

nameXname · 16/06/2024 17:32

Famous old (c 1710) song:

"Some talk of Alexander and some of Hercules
Of Hector and Lysander and such great names as these
But of all the world's great heroes, there's none that can compare
With a tow-row-row-row-row-row to the British Grenadiers"

This suggests that in the past, Alexander and Lysander at least sort of rhymed. Both with a short 'a'.

In history, the real Spartan 'hero' Lysander was a rather ambiguous figure. Successful, yes, but even in those times said to have been unnecessarily brutal. Etc etc.

WhereAreWeNow · 16/06/2024 17:37

Definitely Lie-sander. I'm in SE. Long A in Alexander, short A in Lysander.

Blingismything · 16/06/2024 18:07

Lee san da

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/06/2024 18:08

nameXname · 16/06/2024 17:32

Famous old (c 1710) song:

"Some talk of Alexander and some of Hercules
Of Hector and Lysander and such great names as these
But of all the world's great heroes, there's none that can compare
With a tow-row-row-row-row-row to the British Grenadiers"

This suggests that in the past, Alexander and Lysander at least sort of rhymed. Both with a short 'a'.

In history, the real Spartan 'hero' Lysander was a rather ambiguous figure. Successful, yes, but even in those times said to have been unnecessarily brutal. Etc etc.

Exactly what was going though my mind, @nameXname - but I couldn’t identify the ear worm - thank you!

LottieMary · 16/06/2024 18:09

Lie-sand-uh
i would also always say xander, flat a. I’m from Yorkshire

KingscoteStaff · 16/06/2024 18:46

nameXname · 16/06/2024 17:32

Famous old (c 1710) song:

"Some talk of Alexander and some of Hercules
Of Hector and Lysander and such great names as these
But of all the world's great heroes, there's none that can compare
With a tow-row-row-row-row-row to the British Grenadiers"

This suggests that in the past, Alexander and Lysander at least sort of rhymed. Both with a short 'a'.

In history, the real Spartan 'hero' Lysander was a rather ambiguous figure. Successful, yes, but even in those times said to have been unnecessarily brutal. Etc etc.

My dad used to sing that song! He sang ‘Some talk of AlexARNder and some of Hercules,
Of Hector and LieSANder…etc’
In fact, that’s where I first heard the name!

CatamaranViper · 16/06/2024 19:13

There is a Lysander in DSs class and everyone calls him lasagna.

I'm NE and it's all short a sounds here.
Z-and-er
Ly-sand-er etc

jackstini · 16/06/2024 19:14

East Midlands here and I would say Ly-sand-er & Zander

Hate to say it but nicknames will not be your decision as soon as he hits school! He could be Sand, Sander, Sandy, Ly....

I do like the name
My Dad is Alexander and that's pronounced Alex-and-er with a short 'a' by all who know him, nn Alec

IsabelleHuppert · 16/06/2024 19:15

The two I’ve known pronounced it to rhyme with ‘bystander’.

mynewname25 · 16/06/2024 20:07

Liz-ander

Petrine · 16/06/2024 20:14

South east here. I’d use a short ‘a’ for Lysander but a long ‘a’ for Alexander.

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