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Conor or Connor

146 replies

SquirrelBlue · 31/05/2024 10:44

I love this name (I know others won't!) but am trying to decide on a spelling. I'm in the UK and want my baby to have the easiest spelling possible so he's not having to correct people all the time. I've grown up with a similar issue and found it very tedious. I think Connor would be the most well known spelling but just wondering what others think. How would you spell it?

If anyone has any other Irish boys' names that are easy for Brits to say and spell, I'm open to suggestions. Cillian and Cormac are both ruled out unfortunately.

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CelesteCunningham · 31/05/2024 17:52

BaronessBomburst · 31/05/2024 17:23

I see your NI Protestants using Irish names and raise you my Irish Catholic family with several Williams!

Which side of the border? Grin

Clawedino · 31/05/2024 17:57

Connor. Conor looks like a typo to me. I'm more familiar with the double 'n' spelling.

KirstenBlest · 31/05/2024 18:00

ScoobyG · 31/05/2024 17:37

Conor. I have a Conor in my very rural, traditional Irish family. Also a Sean, Patrick and Padraig. Conall is lovely, so are Finn, Fintan, Ffion, Oisín and Braden.

should that be Fionn?

BaronessBomburst · 31/05/2024 18:55

@CelesteCunningham Definitely William and not Liam.
@ParentsTrapped Mayo, so south of the border but FIL's family in Connemara were particularly horrified.

CelesteCunningham · 31/05/2024 19:03

BaronessBomburst · 31/05/2024 18:55

@CelesteCunningham Definitely William and not Liam.
@ParentsTrapped Mayo, so south of the border but FIL's family in Connemara were particularly horrified.

Think you got us the wrong way round there @BaronessBomburst Grin - I wouldn't think of Liam as a diminutive for William at all, separate names IMO.

William in Irish Catholics south of the border isn't anything out of the ordinary IME, but very very unusual in Catholics in NI.

BaronessBomburst · 31/05/2024 19:19

I did sorry, but couldn't seem to swap you. Blush

ScoobyG · 31/05/2024 19:28

KirstenBlest · 31/05/2024 18:00

should that be Fionn?

Gosh yes. Imagine having a typo when half look and your phone doesn't recognise any words you are typing... imagine.

KirstenBlest · 31/05/2024 19:56

Your family names are lovely. @ScoobyG

CelesteCunningham · 31/05/2024 20:12

BaronessBomburst · 31/05/2024 19:19

I did sorry, but couldn't seem to swap you. Blush

I swear MN is broken, I've had trouble removing tags and emojis at times but not at others. Maddening.

FlatWhite2 · 31/05/2024 21:15

BaronessBomburst · 31/05/2024 17:23

I see your NI Protestants using Irish names and raise you my Irish Catholic family with several Williams!

Same! Apparently in the past Catholic families in the North would deliberately give their children more Protestant sounding names in order to prevent discrimination when they look for employment etc.. before the troubles

seafronty · 01/06/2024 06:17

It's a terrible name. Every teacher will tell you, there are no well behaved Connor or variants of

TwirlBar · 01/06/2024 07:04

CelesteCunningham · 31/05/2024 19:03

Think you got us the wrong way round there @BaronessBomburst Grin - I wouldn't think of Liam as a diminutive for William at all, separate names IMO.

William in Irish Catholics south of the border isn't anything out of the ordinary IME, but very very unusual in Catholics in NI.

Yes, I'm in Cork and loads of Williams in my (Catholic) family over the past few generations.
Liam was used as a diminutive for sure though, also Willie in older relatives. The occasional Bill or Billy.

These days the child is more likely just to be named Liam without William on the birth cert I think.
In the same way lots of older men named Seán are John on their birth certs, but that's less likely today. It would just be Seán (or Sean for those who aren't fond of the fada) on the bc.

TwirlBar · 01/06/2024 07:14

Also it's Conor for me.

TwirlBar · 01/06/2024 07:56

SquirrelBlue · 31/05/2024 13:48

😂 I hadn't even connected it with Conor McGregor. Oops!

Interesting to see the different pronunciations of Caolan. I've only heard it pronounced as Kay-len. I did wonder how Cao can be pronounced Kay or Kwee as in Caoimhe. They feel like quite different pronunciations to me.

It's interesting to see so many suggestions for Sean. It's a family name so it's ruled out anyway but my understanding is that Sean actually means old like in seanmháthair, and Seán is the name. And the fada or lack of a fada will obviously affect the pronunciation.

Thank you everyone for your input. It's really interesting to hear everyone's views.

Caolán is something like Kway-lawn where I am.

It's not the Cao that's important in the differing pronunciations, it's more the pronunciation of ao vs aoi.
Aoi is nearly always like ee, but with ao it depends on the part of the country you're in. It sounds more like ay down south and ee elsewhere.
https://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/Caol

I wouldn't say Conal is straightforward outside Ireland either. It rhymes with tunnel where I am at least.

Irish Pronunciation Database: Caol

How to pronounce 'Caol' in Irish

https://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/Caol

TwirlBar · 01/06/2024 08:10

Or Conall even. It's spelt both ways, one or two l's, but I think it might be Conall originally, not exactly sure.

Baaliali · 01/06/2024 13:20

I wouldn't say Conal is straightforward outside Ireland either. It rhymes with tunnel where I am at least.

Conal is not straight forward in Ireland either. These are 3 pronunciations my colleagues in work have for their 3 Conals.

Conal = Kunnell

Conal = rhymes with Donal (should be fadas but you see it with out)

Conal = Connell.

Phantasmagorically · 01/06/2024 13:28

seafronty · 01/06/2024 06:17

It's a terrible name. Every teacher will tell you, there are no well behaved Connor or variants of

I doubt Irish teachers will have that view.

From reading on MN though, it seems many UK teachers love nothing more than writing a child off based on their name. How cute.

Starlightstarbright3 · 01/06/2024 13:30

The Connor’s I know are two n’s

LongIslander · 01/06/2024 13:31

Phantasmagorically · 01/06/2024 13:28

I doubt Irish teachers will have that view.

From reading on MN though, it seems many UK teachers love nothing more than writing a child off based on their name. How cute.

Yes, and frequently it's boys with Irish names which appear to be singled out by UK teachers as 'naughty boys'. Funny that.

CelesteCunningham · 01/06/2024 13:33

seafronty · 01/06/2024 06:17

It's a terrible name. Every teacher will tell you, there are no well behaved Connor or variants of

Christ, I missed this.

LongIslander · 01/06/2024 13:37

CelesteCunningham · 01/06/2024 13:33

Christ, I missed this.

Yeah.

I'm sure other Irish posters will join me in saying that Conor is a deeply ordinary name in Ireland, a safe eternal classic without particular associations, like Thomas or James in England. I know Conors in their 60s and Conors who are toddlers. I teach at a university, and I have several Conors in classes at the moment.

CelesteCunningham · 01/06/2024 13:39

LongIslander · 01/06/2024 13:37

Yeah.

I'm sure other Irish posters will join me in saying that Conor is a deeply ordinary name in Ireland, a safe eternal classic without particular associations, like Thomas or James in England. I know Conors in their 60s and Conors who are toddlers. I teach at a university, and I have several Conors in classes at the moment.

Absolutely.

Far from the first time I've seen this on here about Irish boys' names (the girls just get the "unpronounceable" thing).

As you say, Conor is as timeless and classless as James or Ben in England. Could be any age and any background.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 01/06/2024 13:40

LongIslander · 01/06/2024 13:31

Yes, and frequently it's boys with Irish names which appear to be singled out by UK teachers as 'naughty boys'. Funny that.

Yes. It is strange. Almost like their might be a hint of xenophobia at play.

CelesteCunningham · 01/06/2024 13:42

OchonAgusOchonOh · 01/06/2024 13:40

Yes. It is strange. Almost like their might be a hint of xenophobia at play.

On MN? Never...

OchonAgusOchonOh · 01/06/2024 13:42

LongIslander · 01/06/2024 13:37

Yeah.

I'm sure other Irish posters will join me in saying that Conor is a deeply ordinary name in Ireland, a safe eternal classic without particular associations, like Thomas or James in England. I know Conors in their 60s and Conors who are toddlers. I teach at a university, and I have several Conors in classes at the moment.

Yes, same. Right down to the university lecturer bit, with Conors in most of my classes

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