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Do you think some dated names are more loved than other dated names?

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oldnorsesaga · 10/02/2024 18:28

Kind of weird theoretical question.
do you think, among general population, some people love some dated names more than others?
For example, Julia is dated, but people like it more than Sandra, because it is romantic and has some quality in sound which makes people like Julia over other dated names
or when people disliked Gladys more than Edith, so Gladys is still not revived, while some Victorian names are back, and some people like Enid as well.

what would be your dated names everyone loves, but you find dreadful? It can be revived name.

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KirstenBlest · 11/02/2024 19:41

I think Dennis and Maud are great. @LittleMissSleepyUK
@FyEnw , I really like Enid, but like with a lot of names the anglicised pronunciation is not nice.

Previousreligion · 11/02/2024 19:42

SparkyBlue · 11/02/2024 16:33

Maeve or Maebh is an old Irish name so a completely different name to Mavis so I think a lot is cultural as well

Yes but the people I know who have used it aren't Irish and we live nowhere near Ireland. So I presume they chose it mostly for the sound of it and to me it sounds pretty much like a short form of Mavis.

sexyandy · 11/02/2024 19:47

Enid, Edith, Morag, Gwyneth, Greta are all traditional names but with very hard consonants. I struggle to like them. But some people love them so it's not universal who likes what.

Definitely names that were popular with one's parents generation are rarely looked upon favourably but grandparents names start to sound interesting

garlictwist · 11/02/2024 19:47

I always think it's interesting how just changing one letter changes a name and its connotations entirely: think, Fanny, Annie, Danny, Mannie, Jannie etc.

KirstenBlest · 11/02/2024 20:10

@sexyandy , Enid and Gwyneth are both Welsh. Enid (ENN-id) sounds much softer in Welsh and Gwyneth has a sort of clean sound to it.
I think that names from another language a bit weird anglicised and they are often decades out of fashion. Gwyneth, Eira and Rhiannon were trendy about 80 years ago.

I think I pp that Morag is not popular but Margot is. They sound a bit similar to me.
Scandi names are popular on here, so why not Greta. I like Greta because it was a name used in a popular 1950s novel. The story was about a young man and his mother, sister and wife were all Margaret but were known as Margaret, Greta and Marged.

@SparkyBlue , Maeve is a different name but it has a Mavis vibe to me, even though they are different names. One of the baby names suggested that Mefus is a Welsh name. Mefus is a Welsh noun for sure but who'd want to name their DD Strawberries?

SparkyBlue · 11/02/2024 20:13

@LittleMissSleepyUK Maud is beautiful. I was au pair in France years and years ago and there was a beautiful child called Maud in one of the DCs friendship groups. I'd only ever come across it as an old lady name but ever since then I've loved it

Hopeoverexperience · 11/02/2024 20:16

MissMuffetisin · 11/02/2024 17:28

My much loved Grandma was called Gladys . She hated it . I remember her saying ““how could they have looked in the cradle at a lovely little baby and thought
“ Gladys “

My dear Nan was called Gladys too. I would have loved to have used her name for my daughter as she was so very special to me, but I just couldn’t. I love most of the other come back names though.

Easterness · 11/02/2024 20:29

Some names are just a bit horrible. I can't see any babies being called Doreen any time soon. Maureen could possibly come back

EducatingArti · 11/02/2024 20:36

oldnorsesaga · 11/02/2024 13:18

Julia isn't particularly dated and is a classic (Shakespeare)

I'm sorry, but that name is firmly into 50 year old woman territory, irrelevant how classic it is. It IS dated. They are plenty of classic names that could be called Shakespearean, and were used through 20 century, but are still subject to fashions, just like any other name.

I know a 3 year old Julia.

lazarusb · 11/02/2024 20:41

NachosAndCheese · 11/02/2024 17:37

Nevaeh is a name that needs to quickly date and disappear. Forever.

It’s heaven backwards incase you didn’t know (everybody knows. We all fucking know).

Agnes and Agatha are such ugly names.

I love the French pronunciation of Agnes - but not the English. I'm half French but live in the UK so chose another name altogether for DD.

EducatingArti · 11/02/2024 20:41

aliceinanwonderland · 11/02/2024 17:49

How about Nigel and Norman? They are very dated
Olive as opposed to Olivia
No one is called Catherine, which is a beautiful name imo

Again, I know a 4 year old Catherine. Maybe my friends are just unusual?!

Suchardchoccy · 11/02/2024 20:42

@KirstenBlest no they will probably have no idea about faulty towers haha! It's a good job I don't watch Corrie then! I do love the old fashioned names

Snugglemonkey · 11/02/2024 20:45

PudgeControlsTheWeather · 10/02/2024 18:39

Yeah - I'm really interested in why so many granny names are back, but not Mary. I'm guessing it's the religious connotation - but then, why not Abigail, or Tabitha, or even Elizabeth?

That said: I'm not sorry that Mildred and Gertrude haven't had a comeback!

I hate Mary. Hate it. I am Irish and it is just so done to death. My own middle name is Marie. Hate it too. Done to death. Mil is called Mary officially, known as Marie. My son featured both grandfather's names as second names, but I could not bring myself to do it for my daughter. Went with Muireann as a nod to Marie and said it is because all dc names are Gaelige, so that worked best.

KirstenBlest · 11/02/2024 20:47

@Suchardchoccy , I also link Amy with Amy Turtle Grin

GreenMarigold · 11/02/2024 20:51

VeggiJ · 11/02/2024 00:17

Lettice? Dunno if this is a joke, I'm stupid and it is a real name or the best vegan name ever lol

I know a little girl Lettice!

I think Percy is overdue a comeback. Very similar to Ronnie and Reggie in my mind, but nicer.

I hate all those gemstone names, Ruby, Pearl etc. Dreadful and tacky! Also not keen on plant names like Violet and Ivy.

Hummusandstuff · 11/02/2024 20:54

I am very aware of the rule that dictates names don’t comeback into fashion until it’s the great grandparent generation.
I tried to avoid with mine and have gone for more recently outdated names I loved - to the extent people were taken aback by my children’s names!
Not outing myself but mine have names equivalent to Susan, Rosemary, Caroline, Peter, David. No regrets!

Snugglemonkey · 11/02/2024 20:54

KirstenBlest · 11/02/2024 17:58

@solis25 , @caringcarer , I like Maud. I had 2 great aunts called Alice and Mary.
I love the Welsh form of Maud, Mallt.
It sounds like MaLLt where the LL is a bit like the ch in German milch, but absolutely not like the ch in Scottish loch.

Edited

Cannot work out how to say that for the life of me.

Snugglemonkey · 11/02/2024 20:58

Previousreligion · 11/02/2024 19:42

Yes but the people I know who have used it aren't Irish and we live nowhere near Ireland. So I presume they chose it mostly for the sound of it and to me it sounds pretty much like a short form of Mavis.

Well it isn't. This annoys me as U think it absolutely is cultural appropriation for people to use names they do not understand and cannot say. I dislike Maeve as it is not the right sound and encourages all the people massacring a beautiful name.

Méabh is Me as in me. Ave is in some mothers do Ave em.

This horrible fucking drawly may v is an abomination.

KirstenBlest · 11/02/2024 21:31

@Snugglemonkey , basically you can't say it unless you can say LL.
I feel quite the same about name-mangling.

Seán, Shaun and Siôn don't sound the same to me.

There was a recent thread on the name Osian, a very common Welsh name, and posters were saying it was very popular in their area and giving various pronunciations and/or spelling it Ossian or Oisín.

Another thread had Emphys suggested as a girl's name ('It's Welsh for Rainbow' 😆) . Er, no, that's Enfys.

Snugglemonkey · 11/02/2024 21:54

KirstenBlest · 11/02/2024 21:31

@Snugglemonkey , basically you can't say it unless you can say LL.
I feel quite the same about name-mangling.

Seán, Shaun and Siôn don't sound the same to me.

There was a recent thread on the name Osian, a very common Welsh name, and posters were saying it was very popular in their area and giving various pronunciations and/or spelling it Ossian or Oisín.

Another thread had Emphys suggested as a girl's name ('It's Welsh for Rainbow' 😆) . Er, no, that's Enfys.

I Iove Oisín! Swerved it for ds though as I live in Scotland and I couldn't face it being mangled!

MrsJellybee · 12/02/2024 06:11

NachosAndCheese · 11/02/2024 17:08

I work with children and have never met a Helen.

The Doris thread just made me think poor kid.

I was just thinking I had never taught a Helen, but then remembered one. About 16 in 2006, so born c.1990. Went to school myself with a Helen born 1978, but these are the only two I can ever remember.

shearwater2 · 12/02/2024 07:14

I love the name Mavis now, for years it was associated with Mavis Riley for me so frumpy and old AFAIWC. But now I think of it as more modern. It's not "drawly", bloody hell, it's two short syllables. May Vis. Done.

user1492757084 · 12/02/2024 07:22

For no reason except personal taste, not keen on ..
Arthur
Reginald - Reg
Stanley
Fred
Matthew

Daphne
Pearl
Evelyn
Lily
Edith

Do love ..
Barry
Cedric
Victor
Desmond
Keith

Nancy
Pamela
Lorna
Gladys
Helen

KirstenBlest · 12/02/2024 10:53

@shearwater2 , @Snugglemonkey wasn't saying Mavis was drawly, she was saying that the v in Maeve was, and that Maeve sounds different to Méabh.

KirstenBlest · 12/02/2024 11:26

@Snugglemonkey , re. Mallt, if you imagine someone with a non-rhotic accent saying Markt, but substitute the k with the LL sound.

Wiki has LL as
symbol example description.
ɬ llyfr, cyllell No English equivalent; similar to the voiceless l in please but with considerably more friction

If you go to an online translator (Welsh to English), and enter llyfr, cyllell or Llanelli, then listen to the audio, you'll (I hope) hear the LL sound.

(If you want to translate a word from English to Welsh, use Geiriadur yr Academi, the online translator is not reliable.)

LL, CH, DD, FF, NG, PH, RH, and TH are letters in Welsh, not 2 letters each.
Vowel diphthongs are tricky and I dislike Eira said as Ey-ruh or Eye-ruh, so I totally 'get' your drawly Méabh complaint.