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Hyphenated first names?

159 replies

Sunmoonstars33 · 20/10/2023 16:50

My DH chose the name for our baby who is due in 3 months. Its a name that has a lot of meaning to him and as I basically chose the names of our last two children (we agreed on them together and he likes them its just they were suggested by me) I think I want to use his chosen name for this child. However this name is only two letters.
The name is Io (eye oh) as in one of Jupiter's moons. My husband loves anything to do with space.
I just feel like Io is very short so I was considering hyphenating it with another more traditional name to make it longer?
I wondered what peoples thoughts were about this.... the name we would use is Celeste. So it would be Io-Celeste.
I've never actually met anyone with a double first name but I know they are common, lily Rose, Anne Marie, Lisa Marie, etc
Interested to hear peoples thoughts

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
KingsleyBorder · 21/10/2023 17:50

LouOrange · 21/10/2023 17:12

Io io it’s off to work we go…

The Seven Dwarves weren’t cockneys last time I watched Snow White…are you getting confused with Mary Poppins?

KingsleyBorder · 21/10/2023 17:52

Sugarfree23 · 21/10/2023 17:33

Which is pretty much how the Op said Io was pronounced eye-oh.
So putting that into a sentence with belongings, Oh that's io's top.

It really does sound like initials, I've come across a few people known by initials but they all have proper names they could revert to if they wanted to.

But it’s not “Eye-oh-esses” top?

So still not the same as iOS.

Sugarfree23 · 21/10/2023 18:09

KingsleyBorder · 21/10/2023 17:50

The Seven Dwarves weren’t cockneys last time I watched Snow White…are you getting confused with Mary Poppins?

It's still far to close for kids not to pick up on it. "Io io come back here" once it's picked up on it will stick like glue!
Between that and Old Mcdonald had a farm eh I eh I o

Maybe I'm quiet conservative when it comes to names. But some names on here are just daft.

There was a thread going with a poster who's teen daughter wanted to change her unisex name for a girls name not that long ago.
This is one of those names that really needs a built in backup plan.

Scottyme · 22/10/2023 08:11

I just think hi ho hi ho it's off to work we go... Sorry.

Please please don't do it to your child and as for there is plenty of out there names so she won't get bullied, that is just ridiculous imo it's borderline child cruelty

EmmaAmeliasMum · 22/10/2023 08:28

I don't know why you're being defensive. You might not like some of the comments here regarding the, frankly strange, name you've chosen. But people just feel almost a sense of duty I think to try and help you understand that it's a real little person here that you are burdening with a name such as this one - for the rest of her life. It isn't fair to do this. You are right by some of the examples you give that you are by no means the only one having saddled their child with a 'creative' name but that doesn't make it ok.

You need to think about how this little girl is going to need to spend a lifetime explaining and correcting others with regards to her name and she may grow to resent you for it.

Perhaps you shouldn't brush off so many people's views here - by putting it out there you've invited opinions on the name whether you asked for them or not. There is some valuable advice here that you ought to take on board.

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 08:35

EmmaAmeliasMum · 22/10/2023 08:28

I don't know why you're being defensive. You might not like some of the comments here regarding the, frankly strange, name you've chosen. But people just feel almost a sense of duty I think to try and help you understand that it's a real little person here that you are burdening with a name such as this one - for the rest of her life. It isn't fair to do this. You are right by some of the examples you give that you are by no means the only one having saddled their child with a 'creative' name but that doesn't make it ok.

You need to think about how this little girl is going to need to spend a lifetime explaining and correcting others with regards to her name and she may grow to resent you for it.

Perhaps you shouldn't brush off so many people's views here - by putting it out there you've invited opinions on the name whether you asked for them or not. There is some valuable advice here that you ought to take on board.

OP says her ds loves HIS weird name, there's a doctor somewhere called Io, and the name was 'given in love' so the child won't resent it and everything will be fine ...

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 08:52

I’m with OP, who I think has been pretty patient in the face of some odd responses. I think Io is a great name. Yes there may be more spelling and explaining to do than if she called her daughter eg Amelia but so what? It’s really not a big deal.

IME children getting teased about their name has very little to do with the name- after all, kids don’t really know whether a name is unusual. Bullies will latch onto anything they fancy and are quite capable of teasing a child for having a perfectly ordinary name (a colleague of mine was mercilessly bullied at school about his surname Hartley, perfectly normal name). The fact the posters on here can think of ways they’d bully a child called Io is neither here nor there- you can do that to any name.

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 09:00

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 08:52

I’m with OP, who I think has been pretty patient in the face of some odd responses. I think Io is a great name. Yes there may be more spelling and explaining to do than if she called her daughter eg Amelia but so what? It’s really not a big deal.

IME children getting teased about their name has very little to do with the name- after all, kids don’t really know whether a name is unusual. Bullies will latch onto anything they fancy and are quite capable of teasing a child for having a perfectly ordinary name (a colleague of mine was mercilessly bullied at school about his surname Hartley, perfectly normal name). The fact the posters on here can think of ways they’d bully a child called Io is neither here nor there- you can do that to any name.

People are giving their honest reactions to the name. Just as the op asked.

Irl people will be too polite to say, but they will make the same mental connections.

And it's not about bullying only. A lifetime of a misspelled name, introductions which are a rehashing of one's name grows extremely tiring very quickly.

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 09:05

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 09:00

People are giving their honest reactions to the name. Just as the op asked.

Irl people will be too polite to say, but they will make the same mental connections.

And it's not about bullying only. A lifetime of a misspelled name, introductions which are a rehashing of one's name grows extremely tiring very quickly.

She didn’t ask for anyone’s opinion on the name Io.

Honest opinions- fine. Accusing her of “borderline child cruelty” etc- not fine and quite dickish.

Sugarfree23 · 22/10/2023 09:09

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 08:35

OP says her ds loves HIS weird name, there's a doctor somewhere called Io, and the name was 'given in love' so the child won't resent it and everything will be fine ...

The Dad has an unusual middle name. So it's nor a name he had to go through school with everyone knowing it. Her friends only found out at their wedding. It might be a name that's odd but not easy to be mocked like Saturn or Moon

They could give the child io as a middle name or use it as initials. Just too many ways for io to be mocked.
Old Mcdonald, Seven Dwarfs & an operating system. Poor kid!

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 09:15

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 09:05

She didn’t ask for anyone’s opinion on the name Io.

Honest opinions- fine. Accusing her of “borderline child cruelty” etc- not fine and quite dickish.

Edited

If someone says 'do you like the pineapple smoothie or the kale one?', it is a valid response to say that one likes neither.

ninetieseyebrows · 22/10/2023 09:27

My grandmother was called Iolanda - Italian version of Yolanda. Could this be an option rather than double barrelled?

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 09:31

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 09:15

If someone says 'do you like the pineapple smoothie or the kale one?', it is a valid response to say that one likes neither.

What OP actually asked- “I just feel like Io is very short so I was considering hyphenating it with another more traditional name to make it longer?
I wondered what peoples thoughts were about this.”

Of course you can say that people are entitled to comment on the name Io as well- they are. But don’t pretend they’re doing “just as OP asked”.

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 09:38

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 09:31

What OP actually asked- “I just feel like Io is very short so I was considering hyphenating it with another more traditional name to make it longer?
I wondered what peoples thoughts were about this.”

Of course you can say that people are entitled to comment on the name Io as well- they are. But don’t pretend they’re doing “just as OP asked”.

"I want to call my child Pendragon-Beelzebum. Is it too long hyphenated?"

Does that mean you should say, "the hyphenation is fine/not fine" and nothing more? Obviously the example is hyperbole, but some people find the name OP suggested also gives them a visceral reaction, and they are allowed to say so.

No one sought out OP. They came to a PUBLIC FORUM. The nature of such spaces is that tangential issues are also up for discussion.

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 09:53

The nature of such spaces is that tangential issues are also up for discussion.

I'm not questioning anyone's right to discuss tangential issues. I'm responding to your specific assertion that people are doing "just as OP asked".

I've made the same point a number of times now and you have (deliberately?) missed it each time, so I'm not sure whether it's worth pursuing this further. Enjoy your day.

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 10:00

HighlighterPenPot · 22/10/2023 09:53

The nature of such spaces is that tangential issues are also up for discussion.

I'm not questioning anyone's right to discuss tangential issues. I'm responding to your specific assertion that people are doing "just as OP asked".

I've made the same point a number of times now and you have (deliberately?) missed it each time, so I'm not sure whether it's worth pursuing this further. Enjoy your day.

"Which spelling do you like. Beau or Boo." Invites discussion about the choice of name.

"Should I go on the cabbage diet, or the cauliflower diet?" Invites discussion on the efficacy of such diets.

Yes, you've made the same point. That you're the thread police who gets to decide what is allowed to be discussed and what's not.

ChickenSoupAndLokshen · 22/10/2023 11:57

@Sunmoonstars33 I think Io is a beautiful name. Am I right that you're a Greek family? If so, the Greek families I know have wonderful names, using many from ancient mythology. I know a Persephone, an Artemis, a Herakles, a Nefeli and an Athene.

People often show their ignorance and I'm so glad you're ignoring them. I agree that Io as a standalone name will be elegant and simple, with Celeste as a pretty middle name. Job done!

LylaLee · 22/10/2023 12:08

ChickenSoupAndLokshen · 22/10/2023 11:57

@Sunmoonstars33 I think Io is a beautiful name. Am I right that you're a Greek family? If so, the Greek families I know have wonderful names, using many from ancient mythology. I know a Persephone, an Artemis, a Herakles, a Nefeli and an Athene.

People often show their ignorance and I'm so glad you're ignoring them. I agree that Io as a standalone name will be elegant and simple, with Celeste as a pretty middle name. Job done!

It's not ignorant not to like a name. And if you grew up knowing the classics and about what happened to Io, you might have an instinctive dislike of the name.

skyeisthelimit · 22/10/2023 12:12

Io is such an unusual name that I wouldn't hyphenate it as it takes away from the name itself. Although I did think it was Lo when I first read it Grin

Call her Io Celeste which sounds great, but don't hyphenate it.

LeonBlack · 22/10/2023 12:16

It smacks of Moon-Unit.

Don't do it to the poor child.

ChickenSoupAndLokshen · 22/10/2023 13:07

@LylaLee I didn't say it was ignorant to not like a name. I inferred that people's ignorance can make people not like a name if it's unfamiliar to them. I know very well the story of Io. And Persephone for that matter. I studied classics. Many names have negative connotations but are still used. Claudia means 'lame' but it is still used and is often suggested on this board.

Daphnis156 · 22/10/2023 16:37

It does not go with Celeste.

I wonder if she'll change it when she grows up?

peaceinourtime · 23/10/2023 14:09

Don’t do it, it sounds stupid

Notsureofaname · 23/10/2023 14:19

Do you pronounce it ‘i o’ like 2 separate letters? It a bit Grimes / Elon Muskish

Myhusbandearns150k · 24/10/2023 20:09

I like Io it’s cool and bold and can stand on its own. Much less cool after tagging Celeste on, and I love Celeste.