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Hades- a pedantic question.

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gingot · 08/10/2022 21:20

Say you knew someone who had called their child Hades.

If you were talking about a possession of Hades, eg. his coat, would it be;

  1. Hades' coat (Hay-dees-es) coat
  2. Hadeses coat (hay-dees-es) coat
  3. Hades coat (Hay-dees)

Or another option?

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DelurkingAJ · 08/10/2022 21:21

Hades’ or Hades’s I think. I’d always use the first.

gingot · 08/10/2022 21:21

Pronounced Hay-dees-es?

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KnickerlessParsons · 08/10/2022 21:21

DelurkingAJ · 08/10/2022 21:21

Hades’ or Hades’s I think. I’d always use the first.

That ^

DelurkingAJ · 08/10/2022 21:22

Yes, like The Princess’ coat would be pronounced princesses

Goingtoqueens · 08/10/2022 21:23

Hades’s. I learnt at primary school that leaving off the final ‘s is only for historical figures like Jesus 😬
(but please don’t call your kid “Hell”)

gingot · 08/10/2022 21:24

Thank you.
Some people are just saying 'Hades coat' because saying Hades' is a proper mouthful, I was pretty sure Hay-dees-es is right when talking about the possesive, but wanted to check

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gingot · 08/10/2022 21:24

Also definitely NOT my kid 😂

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Narwhaleahoy · 08/10/2022 21:26

Damn good name for a cat though. Thanks for the inspiration!

Whatevergetsyouthroughthenight · 08/10/2022 21:26

I’m thinking Hell, seeming how Hades was the Greek God of the Underworld (probably still is, being an immortal) and we’re talking about his possessions.

Exasperatednow · 08/10/2022 21:26

Hades as in Greek myth underworld?

ReeseWitherfork · 08/10/2022 21:27

Brother called James and this always throws me. Following with interest.

JenniferWooley · 08/10/2022 21:28

Just say that coat belongs to Hades - says the same thing without the angst 😂

But it's the same principle as James, you'd say where is Jameses coat. I'd write it as James' coat though as never heard @Goingtoqueens historical figures rule.

Sandysandwich · 08/10/2022 21:29

I would say it hay-dees-es coat, but would spell it Hades's
Like Charles, I'd say it Charles-es coat and write it Charles's

JM10 · 08/10/2022 21:32

JenniferWooley · 08/10/2022 21:28

Just say that coat belongs to Hades - says the same thing without the angst 😂

But it's the same principle as James, you'd say where is Jameses coat. I'd write it as James' coat though as never heard @Goingtoqueens historical figures rule.

I agree with this, I'd always write James' but say Jameses. Also never heard of the historical figure rule.

Smartiepants79 · 08/10/2022 21:32

For the love of god don’t call your baby Hades.
if anyone you know is considering it please be brave enough to tell them not to either.
If they’ve already done it I don’t even know what to say!

gingot · 08/10/2022 21:34

Thank you.
It's bugging me that some people (namely the parents) have seemingly realised Hades'(s) sound a bit ... err... silly... and so just say Hades (coat, for example). And look at me like I've got a third head if I say it properly.
I wasn't a fan of the name anyway but this is really grating 😂

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StillWeRise · 08/10/2022 21:36

if this child has a coat he is presumably not a baby anymore and it's too late to talk sense into the parents!

SavingsThreads · 08/10/2022 21:42

Goingtoqueens · 08/10/2022 21:23

Hades’s. I learnt at primary school that leaving off the final ‘s is only for historical figures like Jesus 😬
(but please don’t call your kid “Hell”)

You've misremembered slightly😂

It's s' for a classical/biblical name. S's for all other names ending in an s. So a historical Charles would still be Charles's.

But that's also just one option. Most grammar books say just s' for all, though s's is coming back into fashion.

Incrediblebuttrue · 08/10/2022 21:43

As far as pronunciation is concerned, I think it's acceptable either way. "Hades - is" coat is a mouthful but tbh that's the least of his problems!

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/10/2022 21:45

gingot · 08/10/2022 21:20

Say you knew someone who had called their child Hades.

If you were talking about a possession of Hades, eg. his coat, would it be;

  1. Hades' coat (Hay-dees-es) coat
  2. Hadeses coat (hay-dees-es) coat
  3. Hades coat (Hay-dees)

Or another option?

Hades doesn't have a coat. It's hot down there.

Violettaa · 08/10/2022 21:46

I’d say either….. the tube station has official signs saying both St James’ park and St James’s Park.

N4ish · 08/10/2022 21:46

Please say you’re joking! Surely nobody could call a child Hades?

Would the registrar issuing the birth cert allow it?

SudocremOnEverything · 08/10/2022 21:47

Hades coat sounds more right than hadeses coat to me.

it is a properly classical name.

you’d be best off asking the pedants in their corner than the baby names crowd though. 🤣

SudocremOnEverything · 08/10/2022 21:48

You actually know a little hades?

Are you sure it’s not a crap shortening of Hayden?

NoWordForFluffy · 08/10/2022 21:49

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/10/2022 21:45

Hades doesn't have a coat. It's hot down there.

🤣🤣🤣

I'd say Hades' (no -es like James / Charles). It just doesn't seem to work with Hades (but what would?!).

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