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Hades- a pedantic question.

72 replies

gingot · 08/10/2022 21:20

Say you knew someone who had called their child Hades.

If you were talking about a possession of Hades, eg. his coat, would it be;

  1. Hades' coat (Hay-dees-es) coat
  2. Hadeses coat (hay-dees-es) coat
  3. Hades coat (Hay-dees)

Or another option?

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SudocremOnEverything · 08/10/2022 21:51

Honestly, are you entirely sure that they aren’t calling him haydie and so haydie’s coat is sensible?

And they’re looking at you strangely because you keep calling him hades. Or the think you want people to say haydie’s’s instead.

SleepingStandingUp · 08/10/2022 21:56

SudocremOnEverything · 08/10/2022 21:48

You actually know a little hades?

Are you sure it’s not a crap shortening of Hayden?

In 2017, 3 kids were registered as Hades. No results for other years but it only shows up once it reaches 3

paradyning · 08/10/2022 22:01

Has someone actually called their kid Hades?!

But in answer to your question - number 1. Hades' stupid fucking name.

YesitsBess · 08/10/2022 22:05

We have two ‘S’ ending names, in writing it’s always Hades’ but I would vocalise Had-ee-ses

So for example it would be Miles’ pronounced Milezes and Agnes’ pronounced Agnessez coats.

SudocremOnEverything · 08/10/2022 22:08

SleepingStandingUp · 08/10/2022 21:56

In 2017, 3 kids were registered as Hades. No results for other years but it only shows up once it reaches 3

🤦🏻‍♀️

Terrible. Just terrible.

ByTheGrace · 08/10/2022 22:08

Goingtoqueens · 08/10/2022 21:23

Hades’s. I learnt at primary school that leaving off the final ‘s is only for historical figures like Jesus 😬
(but please don’t call your kid “Hell”)

Really? I have a similar surname and I always use Hades' I'm certainly not a historical figure! Neither are the Snowball manufacturers Lees' 🤷‍♀️

ILoveMonday · 08/10/2022 22:09

All I want to know is why anyone would do this to.their child?

imnotthatkindofmum · 08/10/2022 22:11

I have a Frances. Frances's is correct (Franceses) but a bit of a mouthful so I always say Frankie's. I don't really call her Frankie any other time but everyone else does. It does solve the issue though!

SudocremOnEverything · 08/10/2022 22:15

ByTheGrace · 08/10/2022 22:08

Really? I have a similar surname and I always use Hades' I'm certainly not a historical figure! Neither are the Snowball manufacturers Lees' 🤷‍♀️

I think the choice is actually about what sounds right.

Lees-es sounds stupid. So Lees’ it is. Same with Dickens’. Dickenses sounds daft.

Rogue1001MNer · 08/10/2022 22:25

And people think Terry Pratchett is dead!

gingot · 08/10/2022 22:35

@Violettaa cracking up!!!!

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MrsTerryPratchett · 08/10/2022 22:35

Rogue1001MNer · 08/10/2022 22:25

And people think Terry Pratchett is dead!

Not as long as we speak his name.

GNU Pterry

gingot · 08/10/2022 22:36

@SudocremOnEverything that's interesting, I hadn't thought about Lees', I guess I probably would just say Lees coat! I'm a hypocrite!!

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oviraptor21 · 08/10/2022 22:38

I have a child with a name like this.
It is always Hades's coat but pronounced Hay-dees coat.

LetUsPonce · 08/10/2022 22:52

I don't think Hades needs a coat. I hear it's very hot in The Underworld.

AlternativelyWired · 09/10/2022 00:07

I guess he won't be being baptised into any church with that name, nor going to a faith school. What's his middle name, Lucifer?

I agree that Hades is a great name for a cat!

HighlandPony · 09/10/2022 00:13

Hay dees coat.

but I think that’s coz Adie is quite a common surname here and most boys go by their surname after a certain age and it would be weird sounding for me to say ay dee sees out loud

toomuchlaundry · 09/10/2022 00:13

Wasn’t there a poster who some time ago posted about a relative going to name their child Hades and the relative couldn’t see what the problem was

Glitteratitar · 09/10/2022 00:14

This your brother’s kid again?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 09/10/2022 00:18

Hades' coat, James' coat.

The second 's' is superfluous as the apostrophe signifies there is a 'missing' 's' compared to verbal pronunciation.

This is how it was taught in schools in the 70's anyway.

Hadeses, Jameses is used when there are multiple people with the same name, i.e. a bus load of men named James.

Laurakiaora · 09/10/2022 00:36

None of them.

It would be Hades's. The same rule applies to any other name, apostrophe + + s for a possessive.

" Hades' " would be a plural possessive, meaning the coat that belonged to multiple Hadeses.

FlosCampi · 09/10/2022 00:45

OP if, as you say, people look at you like you've got three heads, are you perhaps Hades' dog?

MrsEricBana · 09/10/2022 00:48

If I met a child called Hades the last thing on my mind would be what to call his coat.

ReeseWitherfork · 09/10/2022 00:51

imnotthatkindofmum · 08/10/2022 22:11

I have a Frances. Frances's is correct (Franceses) but a bit of a mouthful so I always say Frankie's. I don't really call her Frankie any other time but everyone else does. It does solve the issue though!

Absolutely love this solution.

So we should all agree to call him Hankie when we’re talking about his coat, but he can stay as Hades the rest of the time.

Euridicefortuna · 09/10/2022 01:09

I love most classic Greek/Latin names ; Hades/Dis , Persephone/Perserpina ,Claudia (Cloudia), Orpheus obviously Euridce.Just love them,reminds me of my care free teenage years!

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