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Relatively anglicised welsh boys names?

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welshbabynames · 30/06/2022 21:28

I'm 33w pregnant with DC2 and need to start thinking about names. Don't know sex but have a decent girls list - it's boys I'm stuck on.

I'm Welsh, DH is English, we live in England.

I'd like a Welsh name for DC2 but I think for DH to not veto it, it needs to be quite anglicised. Other than Rhys, Gavin, Idris and Gareth (which all a no for me thanks to family/boys I was at school with!) I'm coming up blank.

More than one syllable preferred. I LOVE Rhodri but suspect it'll get a no.

If all else fails I'm having Wyn as a middle name!!

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ThatPosterIsSoRight · 01/07/2022 08:14

Don’t discount Rhodri, I think it’s great. (English woman with welsh husband here).

Gordonsgrin · 01/07/2022 08:15

Guto?

Gordonsgrin · 01/07/2022 08:16

Harri?

welshbabynames · 01/07/2022 08:25

Thanks loads of good suggestions, will add a fair few to my list to discuss with DH.

Might pitch some of the welshier ones first so he's desensitised by the time I get to Rhodri and agrees to it!

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Palavah · 01/07/2022 08:30

Gryff, Aled, Nye, Huw

Rhodri is great!

SummerPuddings · 01/07/2022 08:32

Dylan
Oisan
HarI
Lewis
Jac
Griff
Aeron
Aron
Bobi
Cai
Morgan
Tomi

SummerPuddings · 01/07/2022 08:32

sleepylittlebunnies · 01/07/2022 00:47

Aneurin, Nye for short.

Love this.

KirstenBlest · 01/07/2022 08:40

Rhodri is fine if you don't mind it being said as Rodrey
Lloyd, Vaughan and David? I prefer Gwyn to Wyn as a middle name.

Frazzled2207 · 01/07/2022 08:41

Not anglicised as such but we have a Gethin which causes very few problems

welshbabynames · 01/07/2022 08:42

Yeah the likely pronunciation has ruled a load of names out for me @KirstenBlest. I have an Uncle Gwyn I'm not super keen on so prefer Wyn (my mum is one of 8 so many family members!)

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HannahDefoesTrenchcoat · 01/07/2022 08:47

Poor Geraint Thomas (cyclist) got his name absolutely butchered even by the BBC commentators who could surely have learned to pronounce it properly giving his sporting stardom.

Changechangychange · 01/07/2022 08:59

Rhodri is great. I know a couple of adult Rhodris and nobody struggles with it.

Owain, Aneurin and Tecwyn also gorgeous. Though you can expect Tecwyn to be misheard as Tarquin, which has slightly different posh boy connotations.

Elias is lovely - I have to say I didn’t even know it was a Welsh name. There are two Elias’s in DS’s inner London state primary, and they are both black, with no obvious Welsh links from talking to their parents. Pronounced ee-LY-as, not sure if the stress is different in Welsh.

(I’m English but apparently have a lot of Welsh-named friends)

Subbaxeo · 01/07/2022 09:01

I love Deiniol but might not suit your husband? Bryn is lovely. You could have Meirion but spell it Merrion?

HannahDefoesTrenchcoat · 01/07/2022 09:14

If you like Gwyn you might like Gwynfor. I don’t think it’s too hard once people know it’s a v sound rather than f. But I do live in Wales.
I guess that’s what you’re trying to avoid though? Having to constantly correct people?
I remember seeing a young woman in a bank saying, “Eleri. E L E R I. Eleri. It’s a Welsh name.”
I nearly called my DD Tesni - tess knee but my mother in law kept saying she liked the name Tes knee so it’s her middle name.
maybe that’s the trick to think about how well you can cope with the different versions as in Dylan, Rhys and Rhodri?

CaffiSaliMali · 01/07/2022 09:20

I'm half Welsh in England and my boys list is Tomos, Osian and Macsen.

Elis, Ioan, Harri and Owen are also good options. Gruff/Griff? Emlyn?

I also have a big Welsh family so lots of names are already taken.

CaffiSaliMali · 01/07/2022 09:23

@HannahDefoesTrenchcoat - I love Tesni, it's so pretty and such a lovely meaning. My inlaws would almost certainly mispronounce the same way. That said, most of the English half of my family get my name wrong, either pronunciation or spelling so maybe it doesn't matter.

GogLais · 01/07/2022 09:24

@welshbabynames , Wyn is good because it sounds like 'win'.
Wyn was massively overused as a welsh middle name in the mid-20th century, but might seem fresher now.

Hardly anyone will get Geraint right, and although it is a nice name, I wouldn't use it. The cyclist's name was as a pp said truly mangled. Even if they got the sounds right (Gerr like in Gerroff!, int as in pint) they'd stress the wrong syllable.

I wouldn't recommend Arwyn as he'll be Ah-wyn and names tend to get shortened to Baz, Gaz etc (Arz not good), and Arwyn Wyn is out of the question

Guto is lovely and not overused, but he'll probably get called Ghee-toe.
Gethin is fine but he'll get Geffen.

Watch out for names with consecutive vowels, they'll get transposed (see Oisan above). Gwilym is lovely and very now but will be Gwylim or Giwlym.

Gareth is fine but Gareth Wyn sounds very 1960 and if IIRC there was a Gareth Wyn in Pobol y Cwm, played by a young Ioan Gruffudd.

Tecwyn is dreadful, Tegwyn is better but looks like 'white tea'. Tegwen for a girl is pretty though.

Merrion is truly awful, Meirion is nice but nobody will say it or spell it properly (look for threads on pottery/uk travel). Welshified spellings of popular names (Aron, Tomi, Hari, Jac etc) are fine in Wales but look wrong in england. Tomos isn't too bad.

Elias is quite popular in Wales but tends to be said as 'LEE-ass.

Fivebeanchilli · 01/07/2022 09:25

I love Taliesin and Aneurin.
How about Huw?

HannahDefoesTrenchcoat · 01/07/2022 09:28

Thank you. I should have gone with Tesni but I was postnatal and cranky!
my DS has a biblical name that isn’t Welsh and it is continually misspelled and sometimes mispronounced.
Even Sarah and Sara get interchanged so I guess you just stick with it.

MrsMoastyToasty · 01/07/2022 09:47

I know welshmen with the following names

Arwel
Iwan
Ieuan

bloodybindweed · 01/07/2022 10:23

Gryff.

Frazzled2207 · 01/07/2022 10:28

HannahDefoesTrenchcoat · 01/07/2022 08:47

Poor Geraint Thomas (cyclist) got his name absolutely butchered even by the BBC commentators who could surely have learned to pronounce it properly giving his sporting stardom.

Indeed. I know a few geraints and although the pron is ok not a single English person can do the stress properly.

MrsOwainGlyndŵr · 01/07/2022 10:40

FusionChefGeoff · 30/06/2022 21:41

Hayden

Hayden should be Haydn. And probably not pronounced the way English people think it's pronounced.

GogLais · 01/07/2022 10:42

MrsMoastyToasty · 01/07/2022 09:47

I know welshmen with the following names

Arwel
Iwan
Ieuan

They are men's names.
Arwel would be Ah-wul
Iwan will get witten as Ewan or Euan or said as Eye-wan, Ee-wan or Ee-WAN
Ieuan is not Y-eye-an in North Wales

Iestyn is nice

mummabubs · 01/07/2022 10:43

Gethin. It was top of my list but DH wasn't keen.