Oscar or Aidan

[SycamoreTall]

Just that, really - two names we're considering at the moment. Thanks!

The rhyming wouldn't bother me ,the name isn't that similar and it feels very different to those names.
I have also known a few brilliant boys called Aidan so its not a 'naughty' name for everyone

Of the two Aidan.
I think both are slightly naughty boy's names. Aidan because of the Jayden, Kaiden, Haydn trend. Might not apply in your area though

Both are nice names. If you’re planning to let your son run riot he’ll be a naughty boy whether he’s called Aidan or Oscar so it makes no difference, always annoys me when people say that. Generally goes in hand with ‘ew no that’s chavvy’ to basically mean ‘that’s associated with poor people, you don’t want that.’ Do you think his school reports will read ‘Aidan is a very nice boy but we’ve had to mark him down in everything behaviourally on account of him being named Aidan.’

I personally would probably choose Aidan because I’m not keen on the sound of Oscar, but I don’t think Oscar is awful either.

I've noticed the "Irish names" = "naughty" tendency on here before. Not sure I'd make my decision based on that.

I know an Aiden and he's lovely. That would be my choice.

Yeah, Irish names get it too unfortunately. As well as American names, it’s just snobbery really and I find it so tacky and a little bit sad.

@SycamoreTall , the Irish names getting a bad rap is because we are not in Ireland. The names from the celtic countries tend to be popular with a certain type - the names seeming fresh or there's a loose connection. The same goes for names from other cultures too, be it American, Italian, Spanish or whatever.

The names tend to get very popular quickly and then seem dated

Names I'd put in this category are Leslie, Kevin, Darren, Craig, Conor, Ryan etc. They are nice enough names but now they seem downmarket and old-fashioned or they give a strong indication of the person's age-group.

I thought ‘downmarket’ might pop up somewhere. And it’s paired here with a convoluted explanation that apparently it’s because ‘we’re not in Ireland.’ When in fact some people might very well be in Ireland. It might be Irish. Or might just think Ryan is a lovely name.

Still can’t get over how confidently it’s said either. That’s because ‘we are not in Ireland.’ Some people really do think their little corner of the world is the world.

Aidan (that spelling)

It's not as popular as people think (at least not in my area) but I have seen it suggested recently on the name threads so I would say it's currently (getting back) on trend.

It's a strong, traditional name and at the same time imo it's cool.

Aidan! Spelled the traditional Irish way, with an "a" rather than an "e". It means "little fire" 😊

@Kanaloa , forgive me for not being eloquent for you. By 'downmarket', I mean 'not particularly aspirational' or perhaps 'a bit overused by people with only a vague connection with Ireland'. I'm not in Ireland or N.Ireland.

I know people with very good levels of education, wealth, social standing with those names but generally they are names that became very popular very quickly, and then have dropped off or will drop off in popularity

Ryan was very popular about 25 years ago, but not so much now

I know exactly what you mean by ‘downmarket.’ I think it’s snobby and sad. What are you ‘aspiring’ to? And why can’t you be an aspirational Ryan?

If you do call them Aiden, make sure they don't work as a manager for M and S

Neither.

What a lord of nonsense.

@SoupDragon , which bit of that is *a lord of nonsense?'

I listed names that include people who have had jobs like Head of Engineering, Professor, Manager etc.

The popularity of the names were based on ONS figures, so only apply to England and Wales.

Omg the insular nonsense, Aidan is like John, it is class-less. I cannot deduce anything about Aidan or the parents of Aidan.

If you attribute "naughtyboy" to Aidan but not to, say the French name Gilles, then that's something you could look at.

The bit when you try to explain how it is "downmarket".

@ComfyChairPose , I have no idea if Aidan is classless. I only know ones who are lower MC or WC. I only know one irish Aidan and he's about 60. The young Aidans I know are not the best behaved, but that might be coincidence

I don't know any Gilles at all. I suspect that if I knew someone thinking of calling their child Gilles when there was no french connection and they lived in Englad or Wales, I'd think they were twats had not considered the implication for the child. Is it Zheel or Jeels? Would the lad get called Gill/Gilly/Gillian etc. Being asked a lot if he had a french parent etc

People will literally twist themselves into a pretzel trying to explain away their snobbery with ‘no just the ones I’ve met are all naughty so it’s a naughty name. And it’s not aspirational but the ones I know are engineers and professors and really it’s only because we’re not in Ireland even though some people might be.’

Quite.

@KirstenBlest you mentioned "managers" which is quite funny. There are Irish names in my family on one side and Managing would not have been what my Grandfather aspired to!

When I lived in England I was in London and no name ever caused anybody I met any serious trouble because the concept of The World out There is not baffling to most Londoners.

Mn not representative at all.

@Kanaloa, it's a thread asking for opinions.

I can only go by names I hear. If I know lots of Darrens and one was a professor or something, then that is what I know.

The names I hear being shouted across the park or high street will how I view those names, and I don't have a positive view of them.

I'm not saying it because I am, or not, a snob, I'm saying that Jayden and Kaiden might have tarnished a nice Irish name.

It is a thread for opinions but your opinions don’t make any sense. It’s because ‘we’re not Irish’ doesn’t make sense because relatively few people worldwide are English so some people might very well be Irish. Calling them ‘naughty boy names’ doesn’t make sense because op will raise this boy the exact same whether he’s called William or Aidan or Seo-joon or Jackson or Sanjay. So you knowing naughty children with that name really only means you know some naughty children. And calling them low-aspirational while also saying the ones you know are engineers and professors (so apparently had rather high aspirations) makes you look confused.

So yes it is a thread for opinions. But all your opinions are just weird roundabout ways to be snobby and they’re contradicting each other to boot.