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Baby name Oilibhear?

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Juliette222 · 11/12/2021 09:06

Hello!
I wondered what you think of the baby boy name OILIBHÉAR? (pronounced Olly-vare).
We wanted to find an Irish name. I like that it has the friendly nn “Ollie” but an unusual longer name. But keen to hear what others think ….?
Thank you! :-)

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DramaAlpaca · 12/12/2021 00:53

Even in Ireland, the anglicised spelling Oliver is the version pretty much always used. I've literally never come across anyone using the Irish spelling.

Oisín is fine, but it does need that fada or it would be pronounced more like 'ocean' than the correct 'uh-SHEEN'.

Snugglybuggly · 12/12/2021 00:56

Awful

Contactmap · 12/12/2021 02:17

Its used more when somebody is translating their English name into Irish e.g. in a classroom environment.
Yes, that is what makes it fake pretentious.

LizzieAnt · 12/12/2021 02:57

@Contactmap

Its used more when somebody is translating their English name into Irish e.g. in a classroom environment. Yes, that is what makes it fake pretentious.
I don't understand why that makes it fake or pretentious? Unusual, yes, but it's a genuine name, just uncommon as a baby name nowadays. The OP wants to choose a name that reflects her heritage and there's nothing wrong with that.
HeyGirlHeyBoy · 12/12/2021 09:17

Tbh people calling Eoghan Eggnog are the ignorant ones, not a problem with a lovely name, and the nicest spelling imo, on that one.
Oisín is lovely OP.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 12/12/2021 13:28

I think if you're going for an Irish name you're better off avoiding one that sounds almost but not quite like a name commonly found in the UK. Then they won't have to endure a lifetime of 'you mean Oliver?' 'oh is it the French version of Oliver?' etc. etc.

At least with Oisín it's not going to be mistaken for something else. It stands out as being a unique (in a good way!) name.

Ceramide · 12/12/2021 13:35

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OILIBHÉAR, genitive -éir, Oliver; almost certainly a Gallicised form of the Norse Ólafr or Óleifr, ancestor's relic (see Amhlaoibhh); a name introduced into Ireland by the Anglo-Normans and once fairly common, until its association with Cromwelll made it unpopular. With the beatification of Blessed Oliver Plunkett_ it is likely to be revived. Latin — Oliverus, Oliverius.

Ceramide · 12/12/2021 13:37

Having read the above I prefer Amhlaoibh.

AudHvamm · 12/12/2021 13:50

Oisin is a lovely name, I think the nicer of the two. Although people in some parts of the uk will be more familiar with the Welsh spelling and pronunciation Osian (Oh - like hot, Shan is how I’ve heard it), but that’s also a lovely name!

CouncilHousedAndViolentBaby · 12/12/2021 15:39

There are sooooo many beautiful Irish names
Pick another one

CouncilHousedAndViolentBaby · 12/12/2021 15:40

@Juliette222

Thanks so much for all the posts guys - very helpful comments :) We are Irish but living in the UK. Very good point it can seem like a gaelicisation of Oliver.

Another name we like is Oisin - I wonder if you also think this will sentence the poor little guy to a lifetime of spelling issues in the UK?

Oisin is gorgeous and there's loads in the UK
irishfarmer · 13/12/2021 12:26

I'm Irish, I could pronounce I think, but you sounded it out so maybe I cheated! If that came through on an email I wouldn't have a notion. Never heard of that name being used either, unless I am mishearing Oliver.

Oisín, though I think is lovely.

Dancingonmoonlight · 13/12/2021 17:49

@Contactmap

Its used more when somebody is translating their English name into Irish e.g. in a classroom environment. Yes, that is what makes it fake pretentious.
??? Your post makes no sense.

There is nothing pretentious about Oliver or Oilibhear.

People have to learn how to pronounce new names all the time and failing to do so is narrow minded.
I think it is a name he would spend his lifetime spelling out though.

One of my DC has a name people seem to have difficulty with. I wouldn’t choose that name again if I knew others would repeatedly call and spell it incorrectly.

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