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Love Eliza, terrified of Ellie

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Edenember · 28/04/2021 14:08

No offence intended to any Ellie’s or anyone who has a child named Ellie, it’s just not my taste. I was wondering how likely you think it is that Eliza would be shortened to Ellie.

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Edenember · 28/04/2021 14:54

@bushtailadventures @LBOCS2 Thankyou. I think it is unlikely, it would never cross my mind to call someone called Eliza Ellie, the names have completely different feels and Eliza isn’t hard to say. But it would set my teeth on edge in the event it did happen.

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nancywhitehead · 28/04/2021 14:55

Really not worth choosing a name where there's even a slim chance it will be shortened to something you hate, and Eliza to Ellie isn't exactly "out there".

The kid could decide as young as 4 or 5 years old that she just loves Ellie and that's what she wants to be called.

Edenember · 28/04/2021 14:57

@nancywhitehead yeah I think this is what it boils down to. Thankyou

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nancywhitehead · 28/04/2021 14:58

Havign said that, my name also has a version ending in "ie" which I really dislike - mainly I think because my mum made it very clear that she disliked it!

She would say to me from quite a young age "don't let people call you XXX-ie, that's a horrible name" and I think that really influenced me! So you could always try that Wink - of course there's a chance she will just rebel!

Halfwreckedbykids · 28/04/2021 14:59

Lol I ve an Ellen shortened (not) to Ellie or Else
They just do get nicknames and avoid if there's a chance and you ve an aversion to the name that could be used.
No judgement here, I ve names I don't like too.
Course my DD is wonderful and amazing but totally get you

Parkmama · 28/04/2021 15:00

I have an Eliza, so far no shortening to Ellie. If anything it is sometimes Liza pronounced Liiiiieza not Leeeeeza

Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:01

@nancywhitehead yep, I don’t think I’d like to bank on that 😂

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Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:03

@Halfwreckedbykids thanks for being able to be impartial about it. And yes I think you’re right.

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Hoolihan · 28/04/2021 15:03

I went to school with an Eliza and it was never shortened to Ellie, I can't see how that shortening makes sense really. We called her Eliza/Liza/Lize.

Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:07

@Parkmama I can’t imagine anyone doing it and I totally accept there are people here who’ve gone and most likely will continue to go their whole lives without it happening ever... but I think this thread has brought to light that perhaps just knowing the possibility is there is a problem (for me).

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Thefaceofboe · 28/04/2021 15:09

Terrified Grin I highly doubt it would get shortened, my niece is Eliza and I’ve never heard anyone shorten it.

Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:10

@Hoolihan it doesn’t feel like a natural shortening to me either, probably because the El sound isn’t where the emphasis is in the name. Same as why Amelia tends to get ‘Meels’ rather than Ammy or something like that.

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ceeveebeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep · 28/04/2021 15:12

My DD is called Eliza and no one has ever shortened her name to Ellie.
Liz sometimes but not Ellie Grin

GreyhoundG1rl · 28/04/2021 15:12

Any name that holds any amount of "terror" whatsoever should be automatically dismissed Confused
I'm really bemused by this whole thing. Just choose something else, you sound like your nerves wouldn't stand this one.

Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:14

@GreyhoundG1rl I think you’re right. Oh don’t worry, my nerves will come up with another reason for terror 😂

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RockingMyFiftiesNot · 28/04/2021 15:17

It's a risk you run, but I think more likely to be shortened to Liza.
We gave our daughter a name that doesn't have a shortened version. Some of her pals lengthened it and some just called her by her first initial. Not her name but think of Ann being called 'A' or 'Annie'.

Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:23

@RockingMyFiftiesNot Thanks. Yes, in my experience there are some people who need to make other people’s names their own quite apart from a brevity issue... which I find a bit strange but I guess it comes from a nice place really, a way of stamping your familiarity / friendship with a person. But also, stop it 😂. If you like the shortened / pet forms it’s a non-issue.

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Twizbe · 28/04/2021 15:23

Eliza is already a shortened form of a name. If I was to shorten more I'd go for Liz (but then that's how every Elizabeth I know shortens their name)

SE13Mummy · 28/04/2021 15:29

The only Eliza I know who sometimes shortens her name, shortens it to Lizzy. It's a brilliant name and if you use an alternative short version then it's unlikely Ellie would come into play. Far more likely is that when she's a teenager she'll be given an unrelated nickname along the lines of aardvark, escalator or some other random word that relates to an in joke between friends.

Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:30

@Twizbe that’s interesting actually, I really can’t ever imagine someone shortening Elizabeth to Ellie, there’s so many others before that. Even Beth would be more likely but Liz and Lizzie the obvious ones. But maybe the longer syllable and letter count helps in this instance. El is a much bigger proportion of Eliza than it is in Elizabeth.

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Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:35

@SE13Mummy yes, Aardvark is indeed preferable in this instance 😂 . It is a lovely name, I’ll hate to not use it. But, I could always use it for a middle and pick one of the (many) other names I have on my list.

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Twizbe · 28/04/2021 15:51

[quote Edenember]@Twizbe that’s interesting actually, I really can’t ever imagine someone shortening Elizabeth to Ellie, there’s so many others before that. Even Beth would be more likely but Liz and Lizzie the obvious ones. But maybe the longer syllable and letter count helps in this instance. El is a much bigger proportion of Eliza than it is in Elizabeth.[/quote]
I knew an Elspeth who shortened to Ellie and an Elise who goes by Ellie.

I know how you feel though. My DD name could be shortened to Kerry and I HATE that name.

We mostly use her full name or shorten it to Ce/ Cece. We kinda hope that will stick but who knows what she'll do as a teenager

Edenember · 28/04/2021 15:56

@Twizbe that’s the thing. Bottom line is, you just can’t control it. So I think it’s a case of weighing up how much it matters to you and then going from there. And i think in my case it would bother me so much, to the point where I just need to think again. There’s lots of names where I don’t mind or like the shortened form.

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tigerbread20 · 28/04/2021 15:58

I have a 2 year old Eliza.
She is mostly liza, sometimes za za or lulu

Edenember · 28/04/2021 16:01

@tigerbread20 cute ☺️ and exceptional taste, btw.

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