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Ek3009 · 23/08/2020 19:31

Hi I need some inspiration!

7 weeks to go and no further forward with names 🙈.

Baby girls surname will be Kilpatrick and we both have one Irish parent so want an Irish first name but really struggling to find something that we love.

Any suggestions welcome!

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mathanxiety · 30/08/2020 06:07

@ILoveStickers
Why is it "Aisling" but "Ailis"?
Ailis isn't the correct way to spell the name. It's a spelling combining English and Irish phonic elements.

It should be spelled with an É - but fada placement determines pronunciation, and there are several options:
Éilis pronounced Ay-lish, or
Éilís pronounced Ay-leesh, or
Eilis pronounced Eye-lish, or
Eilís pronounced Eye-leesh.

Neither Aisling (another English-Irish combo spelling) nor Aislinn have a fada.

LM2098
caoimhe is pronounced keeva not queeva or kweeva
Keeva = Connemara and Ulster Irish pronunciation.
Kweeva = Munster Irish.

mathanxiety · 30/08/2020 06:14

I’ve seen the spelling Oonagh, is that never correct? Or is it a different sound than Una?

I suspect Oonagh (and Oona as in Charlie Chaplin's wife, Oona O'Neill) is a way to avoid confusion with the word 'una'. The 'gh' flourish at the end is a way to signify Irishness and is silent. There's no difference in pronunciation.

LizzieAnt · 30/08/2020 07:00

Both pronunciations are fine @LM2098. I think Caoimhe is Keeva in the north, but it's Kweeva in the south.

LizzieAnt · 30/08/2020 07:09

Ailis isn't the correct way to spell the name. It's a spelling combining English and Irish phonic elements.
It should be spelled with an É - but fada placement determines pronunciation, and there are several options:
Éilis pronounced Ay-lish, or
Éilís pronounced Ay-leesh, or
Eilis pronounced Eye-lish, or
Eilís pronounced Eye-leesh.

Ah, that makes sense, thanks @mathanxiety.
The Eye-leesh I know spells it Eibhlís, so that's another variation used

Shayisgreat · 30/08/2020 07:20

Aisling isn't pronounced like it has a Á. Then it would be awwsh-ling. Asia in Irish is an Áis.

Ailis is an anglicised version of Éibhlís which is where the different pronunciations and spellings have come from.

It's so funny that we Irish are always giving out that British people can't pronounce/spell our names but then we can't even agree how they're supposed to be spelt/pronounced!

MindyStClaire · 30/08/2020 07:37

Probably due to the dismal way Irish is taught Shay.

Shayisgreat · 30/08/2020 07:52

@Mindy totally agree! For such a beautiful language it has shockingly low fluent speakers.

LizzieAnt · 30/08/2020 08:04

@mathanxiety
Neither Aisling (another English-Irish combo spelling) nor Aislinn have a fada.

Aisling isn't a combination English-Irish spelling though. Is it?
Did you mean Ashling?
More confusion Grin

ILoveStickers · 30/08/2020 09:40

Thanks @LizzieAnt and @mathanxiety. Normally Eilis and Éilis are given as cognates of Elizabeth, and Ailis as Alice - so you'd think it was said like Alice with a sh. But I've only known people to say it Ay-lish. Perhaps because it's from mediaeval French, rather than being from an Irish word, that's done something funny to the usual pronunciation.

Never heard it called an Anglicised spelling before, but I guess it could be!

Aisling never has a fada, I'm sure of that at least Grin

ILoveStickers · 30/08/2020 09:42

Aisling surely isn't a combo spelling though - it's a vocabulary word in Irish Confused.

YummyJamDoughnut · 30/08/2020 09:44

Aoife is my favourite.
IF it's a concern, ones that "work"- ie some people can pronounce them!- in English are things like Ciara, Siobhan, Bridget, Niamh etc.

Unseeliequeen · 30/08/2020 09:58

Mary
Niamh (neve)
Ailbe (al-vah)
Máire (maw-rah)
Nora
Síne (shee-nah)
Brigid
Treasa (tra-sa)
Saoirse (seer-shah, sair-shah)
Fiona
Maeve (growing in popularity)
Rós (ros)
Úna
Ciara (kee-ra)
Breena

midsomermurderess · 30/08/2020 10:05

I'm sure someone will be along to explain that Niamh isn't 'Neve'.

midsomermurderess · 30/08/2020 10:06

It's more like Nee-uv.

OchonAgusOchonO · 30/08/2020 10:10

@midsomermurderess - I'm sure someone will be along to explain that Niamh isn't 'Neve'.

It depends on where you're from. Nee-uv would be a bit Munster. Nee-iv would be more Connacht.

OchonAgusOchonO · 30/08/2020 10:16

It's so funny that we Irish are always giving out that British people can't pronounce/spell our names but then we can't even agree how they're supposed to be spelt/pronounced!

That's because dialects are so different. Just look at what fadas do in ulster vs connacht or munster. My favourite difference is the way eireaball. Rubble in connemara Irish. Ehr-ibal in munster.

Unseeliequeen · 30/08/2020 10:20

To my outlander English ears it sounds like neev. I stand corrected.

OchonAgusOchonO · 30/08/2020 10:21

@LM2098 - To every one above caoimhe is pronounced keeva not queeva or kweeva jeez 😂🙄

Kweeva in connemara Irish.

ShaNaNaNaNa · 30/08/2020 10:29

My mum (Galway) says Kwee-va, my Dad (Waterford) says Kee-va

OchonAgusOchonO · 30/08/2020 10:39

Neither Aisling (another English-Irish combo spelling) nor Aislinn have a fada.

Aahhh. You're right. I went Googling last night after one too many glasses of wine as I thought Ailis might have a fada and I found Aisling with a fada. Just saying the sounds now, I don't know what I was thinking. Morto, so I am Blush

midsomermurderess · 30/08/2020 10:43

Niamh is 2 syllables though isn't it, granted the last soft. But not 'neve'.

GreenPlum · 30/08/2020 10:47

Caitlin

SoManyActivities · 30/08/2020 10:51

The thing is that a lot of Irish names sound lovely in an Irish accent but not so much in a London accent.

I know from experience that Caoimhe (especially when pronounced Queeva) is a good example of this!

HarrietM87 · 30/08/2020 10:56

@SoManyActivities

The thing is that a lot of Irish names sound lovely in an Irish accent but not so much in a London accent.

I know from experience that Caoimhe (especially when pronounced Queeva) is a good example of this!

Yes completely agree. I absolutely love Orla for a girl and Iarla for a boy, but they both sound awful in an English accent imo - Awwla and Eaala 😡
OchonAgusOchonO · 30/08/2020 11:00

@Unseeliequeen - To my outlander English ears it sounds like neev. I stand corrected.

It's subtle so understandable if you're not used to the dialects.

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