Spiritual middle name for Rio?

[coconuttymummy]

Our family has a tradition of 3 names, one of which is a name with a spiritual meaning (the other middle name is something of Irish/Gaelic/Celtic origin).

We’ve chosen his first name: Rio.
We’ve chosen his Irish roots middle name: Kian

But we can’t decide on the Spiritual flavoured middle name.

We prefer trendy, rather than traditional names.

We had chosen (and still LOVE) Cruz ....

.... but a few people commented that Rio Kian Cruz wasn’t a good choice (using Rio and Cruz together).

So we’re stuck for an alternative to Cruz?

Psalm is the only other option we’ve come up with, but we’re unsure.

Rio Kian Psalm? What do you think? 🤔

Do you have any other suggestions for trendy Spiritual middle names?

@LorelaiRoryEmily Why would you not call this 3/4 Irish?

@Wolfff Thank you. I cant quite see how it has any bearing on my friendly request for name suggestions, either.

I'm noticing a lot of sniping on the MN boards lately, and I have to say i'm really disappointed with how some mums talk to others. I'm no snowflake, but I do think we should be trying to build each other up, not knock each other down. x

Well, you've asked for opinions and it seems to me that your 'traditional 3 names' are Celtic, Spiritual and Chavvy.

Angel? It's quite common in the Spanish speaking world pronounced Ang-Hill.

It doesn't matter! I was just curious. But really if he was born in Ireland he's Irish. If he wasn't then he's English/wherever born to an Irish parent. Also if he's 3/4 Irish he doesn't know much about Irish names. That's all.

If someone asks for advice, would people be as unkind in real life? In my opinion it’s not for others to judge how others define their own ethnicity or choose names.

FWIW my DH is Irish - born to Irish parents and brought up there and has no clue about ‘correct’ spellings of Irish names.

How far back does this family tradition go? What "Spiritual" names were used in previous generations that you could draw on & by spiritual does the tradition actually involve using e.g. a Saint/Biblical name rather than any word vaguely religiousy like Psalm?
Are you from a Puritan/Quaker background, where children were often given a Virtue as a name, e.g. Patience, Prudence?

Lorelai - that is nonsense. My DS was born in England but is half Irish. Half his family are Irish, his father is Irish, his grandparents are Irish, we visit Ireland regularly and he is entitled to an Irish passport.
If we gave birth to him on our honeymoon would that make him Mexican??
Not at all helpful to the OP who clearly wants to honour Irish heritage in her family.

De Janeiro

Joking, I actually like the name Rio. OP, go with what you like because it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. He’s your child, no one has the right to judge.

If the spirituality of the name is important why not decide firstly what meanings would be important to you and then think about a name that fits with that, rather than picking a random saints name or religious word that you like the sound of.

There is nothing wrong with combining names from different traditions. I think it’s nice and much prefer it to the George Bush 3rd etc tradition where families only use a very restricted list of first names.

Also, re Cian/Kian, I think that as Irish names are becoming more popular, we probably will see different spellings emerge like Margaret, Marguerite or Margret. Many older traditional names have varied spellings anyway when fewer people were literate.

What about Elias for the spiritual name (a prophet)? I think Jared is a nice name but am put off because it’s Donald Trump’s son in law’s first name.

@Clownfish123 under Mexican law, yes that child would be a Mexican national.

@Wolfff yes, I tend to ask and speak the same as I would irl. Sometimes I am somewhat more brief online. There is a line between direct and rude and I don't believe I crossed it.

@Clownfish123 nope it's actually not nonsense. You take the nationality of the flag you're born under. If you gave birth in Mexico then yes your son would be Mexican.

My mother is English, her mother was Scottish, her father was English.

My father is Irish. Both his parents were Irish. All grandparents Irish too.

I was born in Ireland. I am Irish. I am not half English or a quarter Scottish or anything else. I'm Irish. Simple.

@coconuttymummy I'm sorry for derailing your thread. I genuinely just didn't get how someone would be 3/4 anything. I wasn't being mean. Just curious.

@LorelaiRoryEmily It's OK. I appreciate your last post. This is an open forum, and we're lucky to be able to voice our opinions freely. I have no problems with truth (as subjective as this can be) or bluntness ... but when it begins to seep into accusation, judgement, discrimination, 'sport', or other unsavoury undertones, I do find it uneccessarily acrid. Some of us are thicker skinned than others, but we need to be mindful of the fact that hormones are raging on these boards, so a bit of sensitivity never goes amiss! x

@LorelaiRoryEmily With regard to the topic of rightful heritage, I would say genetics outweigh geographical position.

And, just as a little post-script, I feel the need to highlight the fact that our name choices do not reflect our intellect, education, social standing or right to be treated in a respectful manner. I feel that people's responses say more about themselves than they do about any OP.

@coconuttymummy I meant to add, I don't dislike your name choices at all.

I appreciate that. Thanks @LorelaiRoryEmily x

@LorelaiRoryEmily love your username

How about Balonz?

Are you absolutely set on short names? Is that because you have a long surname? I think a three syllable name works better after two 2's.

Eg. Rio Kian Benedict sounds good (Blessed)

@Morado thank you!

@LorelaiRoryEmily What else is it if not three quarters?