Welsh boys names

[39Suzy]

Hi i am looking for a welsh influenced name for a boy. Both DH and i are Welsh but live in England. Our first little boy was called Evan (sadly stillborn).

So ideally want something easily pronounced and spelt. Websites and books arent throwing up much inspiration.

DH doesnt like Dylan or Rhys (booo). I like Elis but he isnt convinced. Anything else i can throw in the mix?

Owen, Osian, idris

Gwydion
Mabon
Osian

I came here just to suggest Macsen. I love it and I think Mac is such a cute nickname!

Just an update, DH has come around to Rhys or Elis 😁 not sure which we will go for yet but some progress. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions and links Diolch x

Sorry about your loss OP.
Arian seems very girly and as far as I know isn't a name, it's an element.
It's a bit like calling a baby Brass or Copper.
Ifan is pronounved E-van, not e-fan.
How about David?

Arian means silver (or monied) and is an old Welsh male name. Female version is Ariana (which i am sure you have heard of).
David is my BIL so noooo! (Cannot stand him).

Cayden/ Caden - my 12,year olds name. No Welsh connection, but just love it!!

I doubt that Ariana is Welsh, and as for Arian - it's a new one on me. I'd check your sources.
Ariana is Italian and Arian is a made up American name.

Old Welsh name derived from Greek. Has been in my family too (a few generations ago in North Wales) ... Ariana is short / derivitive for Arianwen. But thanks for the help 😊

Caden isn't welsh either.

Arian certainly isn't a made up American name, in the dialect of Welsh we speak here it's the word for 'money' but it's also a lovely name.

I love the name Idris. Know a really lovely Macsen - not one people would struggle to pronounce either.

Umm, Dewi, Osian, Gwion, Hari. I love your idea of Elis best.

For the person who asked Rhys has the emphasis on the R-h sound (if you are going for it get a nice roll on the R) then iyss.

It's not dialect for money - it is the word for money and silver.
I have never heard of a welshman called Arian.
Arianwen and Arianrhod are welsh girl's names.
Ariana isn't Welsh. It might be a family name in OP's family.
Arian would get pronounced as Aryan probably. Not an association I'd want.

@mrslant you are absolutely right, it isn't 'made up'.... nor American 😆 and nor is Ariana Italian (actually it is a Spanish name as well as Welsh derivative). But anyway... 🙈

Idris is lovely i agree... i am suprised it is not more common and maintream with the popularity of Mr Elba.

@39suzy So sorry for your loss 💐

I’m Welsh, my nephews are Osian and Cairon. I love Harri, Celt, Brynnog, Brython, Macsen/Macs, Gwion, Ifan,

I also know of a Rhys, but his parents were from Liverpool so even though his name was spelled the Welsh way they would pronounce it as ‘Reece’.

Oh...and Iolo, Guto, Ianto and Twm ☺️

DS has a very very welsh name and we live in England people only usually need to be told once how to pronounce it

Gwilym?

Apologies MikeUniform, as opposed to dialect I suppose I should have said 'the cod wenglish we speak in my village which has a relationship to pure Welsh but not really a close one and they definitely have at least 5 more words for money and better ones at that in North Wales' but it didn't scan as well. I only know 'our' Welsh and it certainly isn't pure (liko anyone?) and just presumed that there were different and certainly more proper words for money elsewhere.

39suzy I was very disappointed that the talented Mr Elba wasn't actually Welsh but was called Idris as a short version of his name! I really wanted an Idris. Mind you I used up half the names on this thread on my three boys .

I love Welsh boys names, my son's rugby team is just a joy of the Welshest names and I love hearing them call to each other in matches and training.

I also love that the BBC has a reporter called Euros, must be a nightmare at the moment .

@mrslant

Where I live, money is ‘prês’ in spoken Welsh

When I lived in Wales I knew a fab little boy called Ieuan. In spite of my hopeless Englishness, I only needed to be told once how to pronounce it. Love that name.

Thanks guys!

@mrslant really? I wonder what it is short for? Although the 'name police' would probably disagree 😂

As far as my welsh goes, arian is money (or silver) but as welsh is closely related to latin (and having paternal north welsh and maternal south welsh) i bet there are a few words with the same meaning in English. And i also bet with silver being a currency at some point, probably a link somewhere. But will leave that conundrum here for someone else to have a light bulb moment and go 'hey that is a cool name!'.

With us living in England, pronounciation is a consideration.... and definitely going to teach little'un the correct pronounciation of welsh words!

Ps Ieuan is lovely, we have one of those in the family too 😊

Prês is what most people would say in spoken welsh. It's the welsh word for brass, or money.
Arian is the welsh word for silver or money.
Loose change is usually called arian man, coins darnau arian, finance is arianneg, cash is arian parod, moneyed is ariannog, funds, funds (noun) is arian etc.
The latin is argenti.
Argentina is Yr Ariannin.

arian is pronounced arr-yan (arr like in Harry) not Arry-Ann

Silver is money in Irish too. Don't know if it's in any names though. Gold seems to be in names more. Fascinated by Welsh. And how successful Wales has been at keeping the language.

Argent is french for money and silver.
The translation of the Bible played a big part in keeping the Welsh language alive.

Fascinating, thank you MikeUniform, it's a beautiful language (as an adult learner I have to say a pretty hard one but still beautiful!). Are you a teacher or just a native speaker (or both of course!).

I found out last night that Euros (pron ey-ros as best I can explain not the European currency way) means gold which I didn't know not a very good learner which is fascinating. Does anyone know the background of the currency name, I know I could google but there seem to be some very knowledgeable people on this thread.