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Donte / Dontae for a white british boy?!

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emmagreen481 · 02/11/2018 17:16

I'm 23 weeks pregnant with a boy and I am really struggling with finding a name. I've looked at almost every possible name on this planet and I don't like any of them. The only one I've considered is Donte / Dontae pronounced don-tay however everyone I've spoke to about it has told me it's a black man's name, is this true?! and does it even matter?
Before anyone mentions it, I have thought about the name Dante instead and I don't like it

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mathanxiety · 15/11/2018 08:11

I didn't mean it was an issue the other way round, I mean if a trad white English name say Elizabeth is used for every third baby born to African or African American parents at what point do you decide white English parents are culturally appropriating a name that is now highly associated with African/African American people? The point is with names like Dante there isn't a clear African providence to stop someone else using it, and as cultural Appropriation doesn't work within Western Europe thry don't need to prove Italian heritage.

You and many others are making the mistake that there are rigid demarcations in the US, with white babies on one side and black babies on the other, and never the twain shall meet. Names are becoming more varied across all communities in the US - breaking out of the Elizabeth and John mould. This is a trend more visible in poorer sections of society everywhere, and that is a complicating factor in name spread.

How much a name needs to be used in the African American community in order for it to become associated with that community would depend on whether the name really was popular among white people and whether it remained so. Dante, though Italian, really isn't popular in Italy or anywhere else in Europe, but it is popular in the African American community. Meanwhile, 'mainstream' names continue to hold their own across all communities. There are lots of Brittanys and Brandons everywhere.

There are very few popular names among African Americans that have African provenance. Most typically 'African American names' are composed of elements of French, Italian, other European, and Muslim names and syllables associated with southern Europe and the Muslim world. Trad 'white English' names are not likely candidates for popular use among African Americans. It is more likely to be Italian/French/Muslim sounding names that are used.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_names

SleepingStandingUp · 15/11/2018 09:08

Are you trying to get the shit kicked out of him in school?
Do you think there's a strong sense of cultural appropriation over a name in school penis?

You and many others are making the mistake that there are rigid demarcations in the US, with white babies on one side and black babies on the other no I'm not. I'm not the one stating that you need to Google the number of black children with a name before you can decide as a white parent if it's suitable for you to use.
Fair point on English names but I was making a point. Although Daniel, Christopher, Michael, David, James, Joseph, and Matthew were among the most common names for African-American boys in 2013 from your link. At what point do the scales tip and you decide a name is no longer usable by the origin country? At what point in history would you have said yo, white Europeans, David is no longer for you, it's actually offensive if you use your Dad Dave' name for your son because this culture now owns it. Which is basically what you're saying. I don't think you can culturally appropriate something that's a COMPARATIVELY new adoption or is at least as old as the adoption in the oposers culture. and which still has clear links to a different culture.

You can't ban one group from using something they used to use because someone else has decided thry want to use it now. The point about no delineation between black and white babies is exactly the point. There is nothing in that and many names that can tell you about the actual ethnic origin / cultural heritage of the child which is fine surely? Unless it is something specifically associated so Mohammed, Kwame etc.

BakedBeans47 · 15/11/2018 09:49

I actually quite like it and I also quite like Deontay as well (as in Deontay Wilder) but not sure I’d use them.

Aquilla · 15/11/2018 10:01

Please spell it Dante though.

SauvingnonBlanketyBlanc · 15/11/2018 10:43

I would think of dontay wilder the boxer

Rachelover40 · 15/11/2018 10:45

Never heard the name before. The only one I've ever heard like it is 'Dante' as in 'Dante's Inferno'. Do you really want to name your child after him?

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