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Why is st.john pronounced

102 replies

JazzAnnNonMouse · 19/10/2013 10:42

Serginon?

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SoupDragon · 19/10/2013 10:43

it isn't. Isn't in Sin Gin?

SoupDragon · 19/10/2013 10:44

Isn't it Sin Gin.

Not that it answers the question :o I guess you have to be very very posh to understand.

fusspot66 · 19/10/2013 10:44

Do you mean Sin Jin ?

Hassled · 19/10/2013 10:44

Yes - Sin Gin is right. As to why - no idea. I used to know a StJohn - he was lovely.

fusspot66 · 19/10/2013 10:48

For the same reason as Cholmondly is pronounced Chumley.
It's knobishness devised by the toffs to keep the plebs on the outside.

TheSydenhamSet · 19/10/2013 10:51

I remember being bemused by this name at English a level - he was a love interest in Jane eyre I think. Or Tess of the D'Urbervilles? It's Sin Jin btwWink

curlew · 19/10/2013 10:54

It's more like Synj'n than SinJin. Like a posh version of a glottal stop.

And it's one of the specially designed unwritten rules that enable the posh to spot the non posh however hard the non posh try to "pass". I know them all- will pass them on for a fee. Like which fork you use to eat asparagus.........Grin

TheSydenhamSet · 19/10/2013 11:01

Curlow, do you know, I was thinking the same about the pronunciation but wasn't sure how to describe it in words - well done!

TheSydenhamSet · 19/10/2013 11:02

"Curlew" sorry

Theironfistofarkus · 19/10/2013 11:06

On my very first day at work we had a meet and greet drinks event in the evening. Everyone was wearing badges and I was asked to introduce the people I was chatting to to a more senior person. One of the badges said St John. I was utterly baffled and thought to myself "surely he isn't called Saint John. Help!". Had never seen anything like it and thought it was utterly hilarious. Was luckily rescued by someone in the group who did know.

I think you pronounce it Sin j'n - got to know the guy after that.

Alisvolatpropiis · 19/10/2013 11:23

What other names are there that generally posh people use which sound nothing like the way they are spelt?

curlew · 19/10/2013 11:29

Beauchamp
Belvoir

Oh, and Wednesday Grin

DontCallMeDaughter · 19/10/2013 11:29

Beauchamp is pronounced Bee-chum. There is a Beauchamp Street in London that I struggled to find, no one knew what I was talking about until some helpful Toff told me is was Beechum Street and it was just around the corner... Hmm

YoureBeingADick · 19/10/2013 11:30

Ooh this has reminded me of an irish name 'conchubhair' which is just connor Grin had me stumped for a while till i had a better grasp of irish.

DontCallMeDaughter · 19/10/2013 11:30

Gah, x-post with the knowledgable Curlew...

curlew · 19/10/2013 11:31

Featherstonehaugh.......

MrsBungle · 19/10/2013 11:32

Yes I thought it was more sin Jun. had no idea about beachamp!

MrsBungle · 19/10/2013 11:33

Beauchamp even

YoureBeingADick · 19/10/2013 11:34

How do you say featherstonehaugh?

Confusedbyyou · 19/10/2013 11:35

Are you talking about first names?

Are there people whose first name is spelt St. John but pronouced Synj'n

OiVaVoi · 19/10/2013 11:37

Magdalen college

Bowlersarm · 19/10/2013 11:37

Isn't it pronounced Sin Gin as a first name, but St John as a surname?

I tripped up on Grosvenor - pronounced it Gross-venor for a while (only to myself luckily)

BinarySolo · 19/10/2013 11:39

I remember a radio 1 competition phone in when they were doing the roadshow in Leicester. They asked where the mosquito coast was reply was 'Belvoir Street' (pronounced beaver). Dj snorted with derision and said 'no it bell voir street. Pfft beaver? Hahaha'

Dick.

charleslingus · 19/10/2013 11:40

Youre, it's pronounces fanshaw, belvoir is beaver, cholmondley is chummly

The stjohn I knew was sinjun.

sassytheFIRST · 19/10/2013 11:41

What about Mingus Campbell (Menzies)?