Do you see James and Jamie as separate names?

[ThatllDoPig]

Or Jamie as NN? Just wondering

I always find it hard to take a grown man called Jamie seriously - personally I think it is lovely for a wee boy but an adult should have the choice of being James or whatever.

I see them as two separate names personally. All the Jamie's I know aren't especially nice, but James on the other hand...know a few nice ones!

No, they're clearly the same name. Sorry.

Yes, I much prefer Jamie

I have only ever met one person who was Jamie on his birth certificate. All the other Jamies I've known have been Jameses, and Jamie has been the nn.

I see Jamie as more of a girls name, sorry.

I know quite a few Jamies, it was a popular name when My DS was at school.

I know quite a few Jamies. None are James on birth certificate. The James' I know are either James, Jim or Jimmy

nope same name, Jamie is a nn to me!

Dont' be sorry catus I think they are the same name too. I have a James, but we call him Jamie. But I've noticed that some people always call him James as they say Jamie is a different name. This hadn't really crossed my mind and I was just wondering what MNers thought.

One is the nickname for the other so basically the same name - james/jamie, kate/katie, nicholas/nick etc etc.

I agree about an adult having the choice so James on bc and then nn Jamie, means he can change. I know two people christened Jamie however, one changed his to James for work purposes, teh other is happy with jamie.

They can be different names, or forms of the same name. But if I had a son called James, I wouldn't call his brother Jamie. That would be weird!

They conjure up images of two different types of men though. Jamie is a bit of a geezer, works as an electrician, wears trendy jeans and lives on a modern estate. James is more dull sensible, he wears corduroy and tinkers in his shed.

They are the same name, Jamie is a nickname.

Definitely the same!

@ Cuppa I'm wondering which type mine will turn out to be!

Same name.

I have a Jamie - it's his full name, not James. Obviously I will say that I think Jamie can stand alone as a name in its own right! However, I also recognise that it is a derivative of James - but my son is not a James, he is a Jamie! A colleague referred to him as James and it just felt wrong.

Only on MN have I heard the one name on the birth certificate and another for everyday use thing.

As far as I'm concerned Jamie is a name in its own right.

Jamie is a nickname but obv can be a name in its own right, and quite commonly is these days.

Same as Jack which is a nickname for John. I suspect 99% of Jacks are "Jack" on their birth certificate whereas 50 years ago I bet 99% would have originally been named "John".

I see Jamie as a nickname for James. Prefer just James though.

Really usualsuspect?

Not any of your grandparents/great uncles & aunts etc?

We had half a dozen Marys, Elizabeths & Annes in our family a couple of generations back so they were variously called Nan, Nancy, Bessie, Betty, Beth, Elsie, Meg, Molly etc etc etc.

I know a girl Jamie.

I would name a boy James (and perhaps use Jamie as a nickname when he's little).

Jack and John sound completely different and I bet many people don't even know that Jack is originally a nickname for John.

Jamie, on the other hand, sounds like the cutesy version of James.

No their nicknames just evolved iyswim. They didn't state this is James to be known as Jamie when the names were announced.

My own children have nicknames but I didn't choose their NNs , different people call them different nicknames