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Is there such a thing as a Chav name

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MarySA · 25/04/2012 20:30

I'm quite interested in those name theories. And how names go in and out of fashion. I've read on here about Chav names but is there such a thing. I see names that make me cringe but is it right to think of Chav names. And also upper class names. I must say I regard some names as a bit upper class like say Octavia and Benedict. I'd expect them to sail into Oxford University on their name alone. (Only joking) Anyone got any thoughts on this. And stereotyping by name.

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shinyblackgrape · 25/04/2012 22:14

My aunt taught twins: Armani and Versace McClatchy. True story

Jolyonsmummy · 25/04/2012 22:15

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ToryLovell · 25/04/2012 22:16

I think that

  • made up names
  • alcohol related names (Chardonnay, Hennessey etc)
  • an excess of vowels used to change the spelling of a perfectly ordinary name

all have connotations about the owner of the name

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Jajas · 25/04/2012 22:17

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usualsuspect · 25/04/2012 22:18

What does it symbolise then? people not like you?

tammytoby · 25/04/2012 22:18

"If that were not true, then Oxford University would be full of Jaydens, Chardonnays and Shandy-Mays. It's not, is it?"

But the reason for their absence at Oxford is not DUE to their name but rather due to their parenting/social background. If a very literary, University educated family named their child Jayden or Chardonnay, then these kids would very likely make it into Oxford.

In my experience it is a very British phenomenon. Just look at how succesful Condoleezza Rice or Barrack Obama have become - would they have had the same chances here in the UK?

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FunnysInLaJardin · 25/04/2012 22:21

when DS1 was born there was a baby on the ward called Twinkle. From the roughest family too. That is chavvy IMO, not to mention cruel

Jajas · 25/04/2012 22:22

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FunnysInLaJardin · 25/04/2012 22:22

although my immediate reaction wasn't 'chavvy' but 'WTF have you done to that child!'

usualsuspect · 25/04/2012 22:23

Ah , makes you feel superior to laugh at the chavs does it

Jajas · 25/04/2012 22:24

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usualsuspect · 25/04/2012 22:24

I'm outta this thread .

Will leave you to your piss taking.

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amothersplaceisinthewrong · 25/04/2012 22:27

There are loads of chav names,

Anything ending in double i for starters or

Any names which belong to alchoholic drinks...Chardonnay, Bailey,

Anything obviously made up.

Jaffacakeeater · 25/04/2012 22:28

When I'd just given birth to DS2 (a very solid George) the (very young) girl next to me had a Henry. Lovely name and my own choice for my firstborn. Then she spelt it out to Bounty lady H-E-N-L-I.........Oh what difference a few letters make!

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Booette · 25/04/2012 22:34

I would say the reason for their absence from Oxford is because they are too young to go! I have a Jayden and he is 13, and the oldest out of all the Jayden's I know (most of them are only 5 or 6)

I don't think I'm a chav, despite DS1 and DS2's names. (DS3, 4 & 5 aren't seen as chavvy names!)

Jaffacakeeater · 25/04/2012 22:34

My point exactly!

Badgerina · 25/04/2012 23:04

Jajas No one said it was ok for you to have been bullied for your accent or perceived poshness. I was also bullied at school because people thought I was posh and because we lived in a big house (and because we were English - we lived in Scotland at the time).

I think what was being said was a fairly valid point about class-bashing. if I play devil's advocate for a minute here:

Calling someone a Chav is a derogatory way of referring to someone of low class isn't it. Chav characterises people from a poor background, perhaps with low education, and diminished opportunity, as (often) ugly, stupid, unhealthy, knuckle-dragging, feckless, feeble-minded creatures. The media have jumped on this word, using it to demonise a large swathe of society. It's divisive and pretty unfair. I guess in a similar vein, Toff, is a pretty horrible word for upper-class people. The only difference being that upper-class people come from a position of privilege, with boundless educational and social opportunity, and power (therefore fair game Wink)

Let's replace the word "chav" in thread title, with the phrase "low-class" or "oik", or "plebeian", because really that's what we're all (more or less) desperately trying to avoid - giving our children names that will make people think we're low-class. Isn't it? Chav is a word we all use to pretend we're not talking about class. Chav, increasingly, is a word we all use to pretend we're not even talking about other human beings.

When I was growing up my mum didn't allow me to wear a leather jacket or chew gum because it was "common". Chav wasn't invented then.

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MarySA · 25/04/2012 23:18

I agree that chav is probably not a nice word. If I recall correctly I first heard it when my DD referred to DS as one. So it was explained to me. Anyway he just laughed. So please don't take it too seriously as I never meant this thread to cause offence. But I do agree with a lot of the posts. I don't like made up names. Or names with a quirky spelling. Or shortened versions of names.

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