How far ahead was the name Florence Rose Endelion planned?

[KittyBigglesworth]

Wondering abuot the Camerons' baby name of Florence Rose Endelion. Then 'ence sound is very similar to Nancy and the 'endelion is almost Gwendoline without the prefix of 'Gw'. Out of curiosity, do you think the name was made out of choice, they were given fast advice or it was pre-planned long ago?

Dave said they would have to do some 'thinking' about the names despite the smooth coordination with the names of the
siblings and the mother.

St Endelion is connected to Arthur in legend, the name of their other child which is nicely slick. They would have known quite far in advance that they would be staying at their friend's house near St.Endelion, wouldn't they?

Given Samantha's propensity to 'pop', in Dave speak, the baby out earlier than expected, did they already expect that there would be a good chance of her having the baby in Cornwall? Fantastic spin for the electorate. NHS, non-London, just like the masses, some PR fuelled drama of a slight emergency thrown in for good measure too. Would you really leave it to fate? Would advisors allow them to? Even if they wanted to?

They must have already checked out the
hospitals' obs & gynae expertise in
the area before they left London, just in case.

Nothing wrong in this, I quite like David Cameron but I'm not sure that the naming and probability of birth in Cornwall hadn't already been considered as an option.

I am preparing to be flayed.

Interesting analysis (!)

Can't say I care too much.

Although, I wouldn't want to have my baby in a Cornwall hospital myself.

Also prepares to be flayed.

Yes, impressive analysis! Can't say I really care either .

I think the whole thing was planned so that they would be out of London and away from the press,remember the furore when Cherie Blair had Leo.

Bit coincidental that her obstetrician from London just happened to be in cornwall on holiday at the right time and was able to rush to the hospital to deliver the baby!!

ahh, I didn't know that mrswoodentop, well spotted.

So how does that work? The London obstetrician arrives at the Cornwall hospital, tells the resident one to shove off and shows the team how a combined caesarean with tummy tuck is really done, in time for G&Ts back on the lawn at the hotel? Would they travel with their own scapels or leave it to the ones the Cornish hospital provided? Perhaps a crack anaethetist came along for the ride too. Then there would have been blood transfusion planning with helicoptor nearby.

Why not, if you can?

How do you know it was her obstetrician from London mrswoodentop? I missed that.

As for analysis, I always think the simplest explanation is the most likely. I don't think their other children have 3 names, so probably they were tending towards Florence Rose and added Endellion on afterwards. In fact I bet SamCam was really annoyed that he'd told the press they'd be chosing a Cornish middle name; "I thought we'd agreed on Rose!" "Don't worry darling, we can just squeeze it in after. Here's a book of Cornish names, must dash, my people await news of the new heir!" I doubt their advisors have the power to 'allow' them to go on holiday or not, and I think any similarity between the name and Nancy and Gwendoline is probably coincidental (Endellion isn't pronounced like Gwendoline).

Sorry to rain on the parade though!

Quite scary analysis really! Does it matter?

Oh you're not raining on any parade, it's simple musing.

St Endelion was god daughter of King Arthur and one his nephews was called Ivaine. So there has been a nice Arthurian connection running through the names.

I wouldn't want to have a baby in a London hospital. Wouldn't be suprised not blame them if they planned it.

Really think you're reading way too much in to this...

Just out of interest (and not for any darkly hooded reason , which newspaper mentioned the ob, mrswoodentop?

Don't mind me and my interest in names, I just like pondering trends and zeitgeists, in general and wondering "what if?" about bloody, everything.

A bit harsh re Cornwall hospital

But then, what would I know?

Do you know, I'm utterly confused by all that.
I assume I would need to know other details to understand?
But then I dont care so its all worked out fine.
I have been really surprised at all the interset in this - just dont get it.

The only thing I don't get is the report she went into labor, then had a c section? Does this happen? Thought if one is in labor, then they don't interfere. Then again, there may have been reasons why she needed a c section.

Can't see how they could plan the whole thing. She just had the baby earlier than expected

If you've planned an elective c-section (for whatever reason - in SamCam's case her 3 previous children have been born by cs so that alone is reason enough), then yes, if you go into labour before your planned cs date, they will give you a cs at the hospital.

I suppose it's the constant media reiteration of the same story on radio and tv. If you watch 'In the thick of it', one can never help chuckling about all the spin going on in the background of news stories, the reality vs the apparent. Probably better not to be concerned and let it wash over.

WHO FUCKING CARES?

Fair enough

Jesus.

They never do a tummy tuck at the same time. It wouldn't work.

I think you might be overthinking this OP.

What intrigues me is why SamCam needed the C-section. But if it were someone random and anonymous online pondering about that with regard to me, I'd be telling them right where to bog off...

I always thought 'born early' was a euphemism for 'we got the (public) dates wrong'

oo-er

perhaps it was all planned to throw us.

Because she'd already had 3? She had placenta previa? Florence was breech? Because maybe she wanted one?

You're right, it's none of our business...

I too have been thinking that they might well have planned the Cornwall holiday hoping that the baby would be born there, so that they could escape the media hullaballoo of London. Given that all 3 of their other dcs were born early, they surely wouldn't have booked the holiday for that late in her pregnancy if they didn't want it to be born there. If it's true - what a jolly good idea!