Erin Patterson - We the members of the MN jury find the defendant Guilty or Not Guilty?

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Well here we are, after 2 years of head-scratching speculation and many weeks of trial detail-thrashing. It looks like the Judge will give his directions to the jury on Tuesday, after which they'll be sequestered in a local motel (I do not envy them this) to reach a verdict.

Clearly we're not privy to every last piece of evidence shown at the trial, but those of us who've been following closely will surely have formed an opinion one war or the other.

So, I ask you- if you were on the jury- what would your verdict be?

Yep, she's going to appeal

Mushroom murderer Erin Patterson's lawyer announces intention to appeal guilty verdicts - ABC News

Hell, why not waste whatever's left of her kids inheritance on lawyers? What a cow.

It’s bloody ridiculous. Imagine she walks free because of a legal technicality. She has one of the best defences representing her . Bitch .

I feel that Justice Beale really sewed up any and all technicalities with the way he ran this trial and what he disallowed, but someone like EP was always going to appeal. She's an entitled idiot.

I hope her application for legal aid funding is denied.

Has she applied for legal aid? Surely she wouldn’t qualify. If she needs legal aid then she wouldn’t be able to hire a top SC.

Not surprised that she’s appealing. I don’t know if she’ll succeed. Judge seemed to make sure all appeal pathways were covered and eliminated.

I should probably name change for this, but to be honest I couldn't be bothered!

I met a tradesman today, who knows the tradesman who took those bizarre pictures on the wall at EP's house. He's a painter. He showed the pics to his friends, just to say "Mate, how weird is this?" When the story came out, he shopped the pics around to various media outlets.

Apparently he got 7K. So says his very chatty mate. This may or may not be true. Before any lawyers come after me, I'm merely recounting a conversation.

Bloody hell! Is this the most recent house or the one she lived in before?

Most recent house I think.

No, it was a previous property she owned that she was having painted prior to selling.

Mushroom poisoning: ‘Death wall’ in Erin Patterson’s home | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

Yes I agree with you. Some of the posters were very aggressive, and offered up a lot of pseudo legal points and tried to put others down. It would be nice if some of them actually admitted that they didn’t know everything about the case before they offered their strong opinions. People like that would be crazy jury members.

She has to be given leave to appeal in the first instance. I wonder on what grounds that would happen given the judge was very careful on matters of evidence and law.

I'll just throw this link in for reference.

https://www.supremecourt.vic.gov.au/areas/court-of-appeal/criminal-appeals

I do struggle to see what grounds she has for an appeal. I think Justice Beale was incredibly careful to cross the t's and dot the i's to limit her chances of appeal.

She doesn't have to be granted leave to appeal - that will be determined when she lodges the appeal.

The court will then decide whether she has sufficient grounds for her appeal to be heard.

The appeal is not granted automatically then, which was my point if not expressed 100% technically correctly.

Now she's hired a Human Rights lawyer!

Erin Patterson’s life in tiny prison cell is ‘torture’ amid bid to move her | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

Grrrr, she didn't care about the human rights of the people she killed!

The alternative is to put her back in the general population in whatever unit or wing she was in before they put her in the Gordon unit, which from what I've read was because of claims she had attempted to tamper with or poison another prisoner's food that were being investigated. She's been in the Gordon unit cell for 400-odd days - so she was elsewhere for the other 300-odd days.

It's ridiculous - so you can murder multiple innocent people, go to jail and make yourself so unpopular with other inmates that you need to be isolated for your own protection - and then ask to be let out early because of your human rights??

I think EP and her new lawyer are working on the basis that prisons are understaffed and underfunded. This is probably true.

However, the whole point of being sent to prison is deprivation of liberty.

Note she still has books & knitting/crocheting materials. And a fucking hair straightener (why??)

More wasting of money that should've been her kids' inheritance.

Well, if she didn’t piss the other prisoner’s off with her attitude and tried to get on with people, she wouldn’t be in this situation, but would have the general liberties in the general population units. So, no idea why she is arguing against something which seems self-inflicted.

ETA - also gobsmacked she is pissing away money, which a ‘normal’ parent would want their kids to benefit from. She is one very odd frog.

A friend of mine (years ago) was charged with various offenses related to her partner. He was done for embezzlement from his employer, on a big scale.

She ended up being charged too. When she turned up for her court appearance, she was sent to the cells! Along with many other women. Apparently, they chatted all day. She said some of the stories were incredible (although everyone was innocent).

I say this because... If I went to prison, I'd want to chat with my fellow inmates. EP seems to be refusing that sort of contact. Given her sentence, she needs to learn how to play nice.

Odd frog indeed!

The prosecution is appealing the sentence as being “manifestly inadequate”.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-06/dpp-appeal-erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-sentence/105858980

I wonder if they would have bothered pushing for more time/life without parole if she hadn't decided to appeal?

Probably not.

No doubt we'll start seeing all the books, tv dramas & podcasts soon.

I do like Helen Garner, that's one book I'd read. She's covered a few big trials, her writing is interesting & thoughtful. Also, she's 82- about the same age EP will be if/when she's released.

Erin Patterson mushroom murders inspire new book by Helen Garner | Books | The Guardian

"I say this because... If I went to prison, I'd want to chat with my fellow inmates. EP seems to be refusing that sort of contact. Given her sentence, she needs to learn how to play nice."

The judge made it very clear in his questioning of the prison staff that this is not actually the case. She has been given official permission to talk through the chain link fence or on the intra-cell phone to one single named prisoner whom she has never met.

That prisoner is in for serious terrorism offences and is in segregation because of her history of attacking other prisoners.

I hold absolutely no brief for Erin Patterson, but this is clearly unacceptable treatment of any prisoner in a civilised society, and the judge was right to call it out and to reduce her sentence accordingly.

I don't believe anyone on this thread would accept the invitation to talk to or attempt to mix with that other particular prisoner.

@WaryHiker The judge made it very clear in his questioning of the prison staff that this is not actually the case. She has been given official permission to talk through the chain link fence or on the intra-cell phone to one single named prisoner whom she has never met

That’s the current situation the judge was talking about. It was not the previous situation when she was in general population. She stuffed that for herself, due to her behaviour with the other inmates and was consequently transferred to the isolated situation she is in now, and what the judge is referring.