Erin Patterson - We the members of the MN jury find the defendant Guilty or Not Guilty?

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Well here we are, after 2 years of head-scratching speculation and many weeks of trial detail-thrashing. It looks like the Judge will give his directions to the jury on Tuesday, after which they'll be sequestered in a local motel (I do not envy them this) to reach a verdict.

Clearly we're not privy to every last piece of evidence shown at the trial, but those of us who've been following closely will surely have formed an opinion one war or the other.

So, I ask you- if you were on the jury- what would your verdict be?

@Anzena I’m pretty sure that Channel 7 will post it to their YouTube page. They’re a free to air tv channel and they post other big news stories to YouTube. They also have a Facebook page and an app called 7plus where shows can be watched live or at a time of your choosing.

This is a really big deal in the Australian court system. Cameras are usually banned, so a live feed on tv is beyond unusual.

Hopefully life without parole.

ABC news website hasn't even mentioned that the judge has decided the sentencing can be broadcast. Odd that they don't think it newsworthy, given that their coverage of the case has been quite comprehensive.

I would be very surprised if Erin got anything less than life... whether that's life with the possibility of parole (so around 30 or so years) or life without the possibility of parole ( she'll die in jail) is anyone's guess. I'm going with the second option considering she took her time to forage for the mushrooms, then spent time cooking a dish which apparently isn't the easiest one to make, she lied about where the mushrooms came from and then she made sure they had individual servings on different coloured plates so she knew who had what. After that she got rid of the dehydrator, did a factory resetting of her phone when the cops arrived to search her house and it goes on and on. Erin is cooked.

Even if she is allowed parole, after a 30-year sentence- she'll be in her 80's.

In that sense, it doesn't much matter whether she's allowed parole or not- other than to set a precedent for mass murder I guess.

I'm still amazed this is being screened live. As @FeralWoman said, this has never happened in the Australian court system.

Yes I find this peculiar as well. Perhaps they don't wish to piggy-back on the CH7 scoop?

Although you'd think there will be ABC journos there on the day.

Even if she is allowed parole, after a 30-year sentence- she'll be in her 80's. In that sense, it doesn't much matter whether she's allowed parole or not- other than to set a precedent for mass murder I guess

It does matter though. While 80yo’s might not be too capable of rampaging around with a knife, and you could probably wrestle a gun or other weapon off them pretty easily, they are entirely capable of poisoning people. Imagine she gets out and then the ‘sweet old 80yo lady’ makes a cake for her pensioners group🤣.

Ha! I hadn't considered that.... you make an interesting point 😨

We'll find out soon enough!

It is definitely unusual but not unprecedented. The Chris Dawson verdict and Bruce Lehrmann’s defamation judgement were both broadcast live.

In this case I don’t really think it’s necessary. I really feel for all the family members, I don’t think any of them have appreciated the three ring circus that this case has become.

WTF, according to the Herald Sun (paywalled) she has given Bill Doogue, who was her original lawyer, a crochet rat that she has crafted...

Live stream of the sentencing will be at 9:30 AM AEST tomorrow (0:30 AM London time), on ^^

Just bumping this as the sentencing live feed has started on the BBC website now.

Here…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cp8jmmzv256t

@BeanQuisine oops, sorry I didn’t see you’d put a link up too.

That made me laugh! Fuck she's a weirdo.

Just tuning in.... so far looking at an empty judge's chair.

Not sure I'll make it through the whole thing, think they said it could take up to an hour!

33 years WITH possibility of parole after that.

Not what I was expecting.

Yup. Not long enough.

Three life sentences for the three murders and 25 years for the attempted murder.

The non-parole period is effectively a life sentence. She’ll be 83, almost 84. I think that’s about the average lifespan for an Australian woman.

What was the disposal order about? Her house perhaps?

Well it's a long time, and she may well die in jail before it's over.

33 years of solitary in a shoebox cell will leave her with as much vitality as a dried up mushroom.

Given how unhealthy prison life is in general it's pretty unlikely she'll live to 83. But not impossible.

Still, it's not much to look forward to.

What was the disposal order about? Her house perhaps?

That's my guess but I'm not sure.

I think given the conditions of her imprisonment the judge had to set a non parole period or it would just open the door to an appeal. She will be in her 80s before she’ll even be considered for parole.

I am not surprised by the sentence.

Good on Beale. I really liked the way he laid out the case, and the way he declared her sentence and then ordered her removed with thinly veiled contempt.

She has a snowball's chance in hell in getting that reduced on appeal. Her non-parole period won't be up until she's 81, and she's already aged in the weeks since her trial ended. I think it will very much be life in jail for Erin Patterson.

Ian's words to the gathered press afterwards were so lovely and heartfelt.

So she’s eligible for parole at 81yo, taking into account the almost 2 years she’s already been in custody.

Ah, I didn't take the 2 years served into account. So 81 when eligible for payroll.

I found it disconcerting to hear Justice Beale saying fucking this & fuck that when quoting Erin's online stuff. 😆