The mushroom poisoning in Vic.... I am gripped

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This has been all over the news. I live one town over from Leongatha and believe me, it's the talk of the towns.

We have loads of mushrooms around our place but wouldn't dream of eating them. About 90% of foraged mushrooms in Australia are poisonous.

Then again, you do get groups of people who think they know what they're doing, and perhaps they do.

Meanwhile this is suss-as.

Three people died from suspected mushroom poisoning after sharing a meal. Here's what we know - ABC News

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If the shrooms were dehydrated (which it seems they were), they could have been ground up into a powder and put in the food without whoever was eating it actually knowing they were in there. Dehydrated also makes the toxin more potent.

Ha Ha sorry didnt realise you were joking 😁

The amateur "body language experts" on this thread need to pack it in, seriously, before this thread gets deleted. The police and the ACTUAL experts working with them will ascertain the truth of this case, hopefully. In the meantime, people behave in all sorts of odd ways when they have had a shock.

How did she not get ill from handling the mushrooms herself? Was she wearing gloves when preparing?

You don't get poisoned just from handling poisonous mushrooms - you have to ingest them.

I’m not joking.

I watched a programme on catching a killer and a police psychologist was explaining body language. It was that evil Mick Philpott and his crocodile tears. He was pretending to wipe away tears just like she is in that video.

But would you make a meal for guests that you’re not going to eat yourself? Surely with such a small gathering all the adults would eat the same meal…

I regularly do as I don't eat meat, but do cook it for dh, dd and guests. So I don't find that aspect that unusual in its own.

It almost feels so obvious that she did it that it makes you think maybe she's been set up? I mean if you were going to murder people in this way, surely being the host, the cook and then subsequently the only adult who didn't get sick is going to be far too suspicious?

And I have zero patience with virtue signalling.

Yep. She's trying hard but isn't a good enough actress bless her.

@mangochops In the Scottish case it baffles me- why on earth take the chance?- you can buy mushrooms from most shops and they even said they didnt even taste nice anyway. I just dont understand why anyone would take such a stupid risk.

Well ... it can feel good to harvest your food direct from the land while you're out and about, and it's a great experience for children, teaching them how it all began. Mushrooms, berries, large fruits, nuts, leaves, roots, flowers, seaweeds, and more. Lots of things are edible, lots are inedible, unpleasant tasting or need further processing, a relative few are dangerous. You do have to know what you're doing though.

I remember picking samphire straight into my egg sandwich, guddling for fish with my Grandad, and once taking home an eel (which did not impress Grannie as much as we felt it should :). Berries were always picked wild, also apples and rhubarb. Nettles, sorrel, wild garlic. My step-father was a Professor of Botany, specialising in fungi, so I spent a lot of teenage weekends tramping though wet woodlands foraging for a veritable smörgåsbord of mushroom varieties to throw in the pan later.

I have a feeling you're just stirring up shit; who doesn't love to be offended these days.
But if not then please point to me the part of the Equalities legislation that mentions stupidity as a protected characteristic..

Exactly.

I check my hands after I rub or wipe my eyes. Wether I'm crying or not. I don't wear make up and I'm not checking for tears. Dd and my father used to do the same.

I've been told I'm guilty of something I did not do as a kid a few times (and sometimes physically punished for) because I touched my face a lot, or I didn't make eye contact. I find eye contact extremely challenging in a calm situation, in a high stress situation it's impossible because if I force myself to do eye contact then I can't process fuck all else.

I'm not saying this woman is innocent, I don't know that, I just don't think body language especially at times of high stress is the same across all people.

Lots of movements that are assigned to guilt and lying are also very common self soothing or stims in ND people. She could be guilty as fuck but I wouldn't base my assumption on that because she liked at her hands after rubbing her eyes.

That interview outside the car is a joke. Every phrase is trite, her delivery OTT. It's as though she's told herself she needs to demonstrate that really she loved these people (like her own mum) and is an innocent victim of their passing, and is reciting rehearsed lines.

No doubt the police will be talking to her estranged husband and other family members. Two minutes with them will explain relations between the family and this woman, and what she's really like. The fact the children have been removed from her care (presumably to be with their father) says a lot.

Some men on our jury and the defense said she didn't come across well because she wasn't tearful, no she wasn't, she was (quite rightly) absolutely furious ... I thought she was so brave.

I guess it’s possible that she made a meal and as it was preparing realised she didn’t have enough for everyone,,,,,like maybe the mushrooms boiled down smaller than expected or something? So she gave the guests that and didn’t eat much/ate something different herself? I’m possibly grasping at straws but just trying to think of other possibilities.

Stupid is a slur for individuals with intellectual disabilities. It’s a slur. I’m not stirring up shit, I made a simple statement that I’m not on board with ableist slurs. Which I’m not.

How do you describe someone who doesn’t have an intellectual disability but who does do something ill-advised or foolish? Hang on, is “foolish” permitted?

Perhaps you see it as that, but most people don't. I would accept that the 'R' word or similar is offensive, but stupid is used far and wide and has little to do with someone having a learning disability or similar.

Oh, DO behave. It absolutely is not. Wind your neck in - you're just looking for reasons to be offended.

Anyway sorry OP for derailing a bit... as for the actual topic of the thread - I wonder what her motivations were (if she actually did it)? Why would she target her in-laws? It just seems so bizarre.

People saying inheritance etc. I thought she was divorced from him, and would therefore have no claim.

The reporting has said they are separated. I don’t think they are legally divorced (yet).

The articles I've read don't say divorced, just estranged or separated.