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AI Art, have you tried it.

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CandideO · 19/07/2024 14:06

Hiya, I've been seeing some very beautiful AI art recently on Instagram and thinking of buying some as a framed print. Has anyone bought any AI art prints? What was your experience in terms of quality, delivery, and overall satisfaction? Are there any particular artists or websites you would recommend? Thanks!"

AI Art, have you tried it.
AI Art, have you tried it.
AI Art, have you tried it.
AI Art, have you tried it.
AI Art, have you tried it.
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lokomoko · 31/07/2024 11:33

@namechange248 I realise that but artists, illustrators and photographers are all losing work. It is a fact. Stock photographers, stock illustrators, digital artists that work on animated projects or special effects - all losing work as well as their work being scraped. Yes some may be utilising it within their work, getting things done quicker and the nature of the tasks that artists do will change, but a lot of the financial opportunities that were available for people providing services and selling their work are now quickly going. Sad fact. I realise this will not change but this thread is about purchasing AI art, when you could support an artist instead.

lokomoko · 31/07/2024 11:36

namechange248 · 31/07/2024 11:31

AI art isn't simply appearing out of the ether! Somebody (a human) is generating the work from prompts. If you don't think of yourself as an artist, but drew or painted a picture of your garden that you quite liked and decided to put it on the wall, are you taking away jobs from real artists? No. So what difference is there to fuelling your creativity into prompts which are then worked on by an AI?

Ok so creating work for projects is a bit different but when it comes to real art,
I see the true human creative process as a sacred thing. You're not honouring the creative process when you create art. Ok when using AI you can select a few colours, generate prompts, change elements of designs, taking decisions, tweaking make a collage etc. But in terms of art itself there is a sacred creative process that comes when we actually make art. Buying AI does not respect this process and I have little respect for AI artists TBH. If they can't do it without AI are they really an artist?

CandideO · 31/07/2024 11:37

@LolaJ87 Hi, I am a photographer and know many professional photographers and can assure you that from cameras costing thousands of pounds to post production software like Photoshop, there is a big difference between the image the photographer takes and the final one they sell or exhibit. AI like the camera is simply a tool to express human creativity in my option.

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TamingofShrews · 31/07/2024 11:40

@CandideO You’ve repeatedly missed the point, you don’t have to buy from artists you don’t want to. But saying ‘who you’ve decided are artists’ is just idiotic, we haven’t ‘decided’ - it is a fact. Ai is not an artist. I suspect you’re being deliberately obtuse though.

lokomoko · 31/07/2024 11:40

I think a lot of people who use AI to generate artwork for sale as "art" then change a couple of colours and create prompts mistakenly believe they are a clever and intelligent artist. Cognitive dissonance of sorts. Anyone could do that. But they want to believe they have some superior intelligence and control over the creative process that makes them a true artist. I am talking about art here rather than utilising AI for technical processes, which is different.

There is nothing that special or particularly intelligent about generating prompts, changing colours and putting words into machines to create some images, anyone could do it. That's not genius!

However anyone couldn't make great art from scratch. Only great artists can do that.

To believe you are some kind of artistic genius or whatever because you put some prompts into AI and tweaked a colour here or there is deranged.

lokomoko · 31/07/2024 11:40

CandideO · 31/07/2024 11:37

@LolaJ87 Hi, I am a photographer and know many professional photographers and can assure you that from cameras costing thousands of pounds to post production software like Photoshop, there is a big difference between the image the photographer takes and the final one they sell or exhibit. AI like the camera is simply a tool to express human creativity in my option.

Are you making money from selling AI art or are you planning to?

CandideO · 31/07/2024 11:41

@Brokenpebbles I'm very much human. 🙂

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LolaJ87 · 31/07/2024 11:45

Choosing the "art" pieces you've chosen as a photographer strikes me as really odd.

CandideO · 31/07/2024 11:47

@namechange248 Completely agree. I feel like a lot of the negativity around AI Art comes from the lack of understanding of what it takes to create AI Art. It's a combination of having a story to tell, understanding art and yes, being able to creatively use language (prompts) to create the art.

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Wormfanclub · 31/07/2024 11:48

AI art is theft.

Only idiots would enjoy AI art.

lokomoko · 31/07/2024 11:48

LolaJ87 · 31/07/2024 11:45

Choosing the "art" pieces you've chosen as a photographer strikes me as really odd.

I suspect the poster makes money from selling AI "art" and their motivations for this thread are possibly not genuine.

lokomoko · 31/07/2024 11:51

CandideO · 31/07/2024 11:47

@namechange248 Completely agree. I feel like a lot of the negativity around AI Art comes from the lack of understanding of what it takes to create AI Art. It's a combination of having a story to tell, understanding art and yes, being able to creatively use language (prompts) to create the art.

This is not creative, artistic or genius in any way. It is putting a few word prompts into a machine (which anyone can learn within a few hours how to word the right prompts) and changing a couple of colours. No skill involved. Just grifting.

CandideO · 31/07/2024 11:56

@lokomoko So, you don't believe there is creative skill in the use of language? Shakespeare would disagree... This was meant to be a light hearted post but some negativity seems to be developing. I respect your opinion on AI Art and wish you continuing success with your art.

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lokomoko · 31/07/2024 12:02

@CandideO are you comparing Shakespeare with AI prompts? Interesting analogy. It harks back to my point earlier - thinking you are some kind of genius for feeding descriptive words in a specific order into a machine does not make you a genius. A child could learn it in about 10 minutes.

You've not answered my question on whether you make money from AI art or are trying to?

CrunchyCarrot · 31/07/2024 12:03

I would not do so as I want to support artists who do their own work. AI is putting some of them out of business!

CandideO · 31/07/2024 12:28

@lokomoko The analogy was that there is creative skill in the use of language. Yes, there is a difference in how that creativity is expressed, however I suspect many artists would not consider themselves to have the genius of a Picasso or Barbara Hepworth and yet I hope we would all agree that their expression of creativity still makes them 'real artists'.

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lokomoko · 31/07/2024 12:34

@CandideO the creativity in creating an AI prompt is something a child could learn in ten minutes. It may involve a little imagination but that does not mean the resultant product has real artistic value. It does not make the creator a genius or even an artist. It makes them a person who can write a prompt for an AI machine by using descriptive language in a certain order. Yes there's creativity involved in the same way there's creativity in a business powerpoint or some spiel on a website or even in the words I use on the phone to describe my day to my friend. Does this make it or me somehow worthy of particular reverence? Nope.

Do you make money or are you trying to or planning to make money from AI "art"?

Why are you ignoring the question repeatedly?

MushMonster · 31/07/2024 12:40

I would not call that art, sorry.
Some images are nice, but AI generated content does not fulfill my definition of art, which is a human expression of a feeling or an idea in material form, be it sound, light, movie or object.

CandideO · 31/07/2024 12:43

@lokomoko We both agree that there is creativity in AI Art, the difference is our opinions on the level of skill and value we place on that creativity which is, as with all art completely subjective and which I am sure is something we can both agree on.

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CandideO · 31/07/2024 12:48

@MushMonster I too agree that some AI Art images are nice.

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lokomoko · 31/07/2024 12:52

@CandideO From your repeated ignoring of the question I can only deduce that you have a financial incentive to promote your AI made artwork and that was the purpose of your thread.

I see it as tedious grifting with no artistic value.

CandideO · 31/07/2024 12:55

@lokomoko I fully respect your point of view on this, I disagree completely but respect how you feel.

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Keepingcosy · 31/07/2024 12:57

OP, typing a few prompts into an AI system is really reaching in terms of laudable creativity.

No one won a prize for pressing the 'demo' button on a keyboard.

I agree that tech has always pushed boundaries of what we call creativity but surely this is the limit?

lokomoko · 31/07/2024 12:57

@CandideO just answer the question?

CandideO · 31/07/2024 12:59

@Keepingcosy Who gets to decide that limit for everyone?

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