Crochet- Persian Tiles- pattern help!

[CRbear]

Hi wise crafters,

I’ve never been so stuck on a crochet pattern before. I’ve tried drawing it out, pulled and tried again several times- i even found a YouTube video but I’m sure it’s not correct...

I’m on round 7 of the octagon motif. I struggled with round 6 until I realised that for all the complicated wording about half completed a DC in each chain space, it essentially meant to do 6 DC into each space.

Anyway- round 7- I attach a photo (sorry it’s been chewed by a friends baby!) - I can see there are meant to be small “humps”- 3 chain loops over one skipped DC- and bigger “humps”- 4 chain loops over 4 skipped DC. But no matter how many times I try it my “humps” don’t line up by the second repeat... is the problem with my round 6? I attach a photo of my work as it stands but I haven’t attempted 7 again yet- If it would help me to post what mine looks like when I try let me know! Any ideas what could I be doing wrong here? Thanks so much for your help!

Might the answer be on here for you. Around 10half minutes she starts the yellow round. Then round 7

Sorry I can't really make the pattern out.

There must be a miss count somewhere. I did some of this ages ago and it's quite difficult

Thanks for your responses both!

@user1471538283 - I’d agree except row 6 is not based on the number of stitches underneath- it’s 6 DC into each chain space. So there’s not really anyway to get that wrong (I’ve counted and counted!) however again the video that myshitisreal refers to does it slightly different to what I feel the pattern is suggesting so maybe that’s the issue. It’s certainly complicated. I’m going to do the granny squares first and come back to the octagons later.

Do you think those YouTube videos are correct @Myshitisreal? Because I have watched it and for round 7 in particular it doesn’t seem to match the pattern! She does an even number of stitches and chains, not different sized “humps”. I’d happily do that instead but I’d worry I’ll have problems with the rest of the pattern as a result.

Not sure but if you are going to repeat the pattern with the clusters of trebles/triples, aren’t you going to need to increase the amount of chains between them each rep’? Or insert a new set of treble motifs? Sorry, don’t know if I’m making sense.

Have you looked on Ravelry? I know that has been a very popular pattern and I think had at least one CAL so there's probably a lot of discussion about the pattern.

So round 6 you should have six full dc in each space and then you should have dc2tog over the top of each lozenge shape § (for want of a better way of putting it.
Round 7 you need to be starting on effectively the second stitch in, working a stitch in there and the following 3 stitches so
§ = x x x x = § then 4 chain which takes you over the top of the lozenge to start the next row
4ch , skip 4st, (over lozenge) 1dc in next 4 st
then the numbers change
3ch, sk 1ch, 1dc (over lozenge) 1dc in next four stitches
Don't worry about them looking even,they aren't meant to and they shift back and forth a bit because of the counting. If you need to move it on slightly then do
on the next round you are only working into the four chains and doing a single securing stitch in the three chain.
Looking at your round six, it's not clear you've been doing a dc2tog over the top of the lozenge and have you remembered the ch1 as that gives space, that additional stitch is important and the way you describe sounds like you might have been leaving it out and this is throwing your counting off on the next round.
Sorry hard to diagnose from pictures and it's a few years since I did the piece. 😁
Sorry this is become very convoluted, you are dc2tog over every other lozenge top and not every one, so your round 7 3ch should be over the 1ch lozenge top and your 4 ch should be over the 2dctog lozenge top I think! That might be clear as mud!
If that hasn't helped tag me and I'll try and draw it out for clarity.

I had this problem OP! I'm afraid I haven't got a quick solution - I did two octagons not quite right, and then the third and all the ones after that have come out perfectly. I still don't know what I did wrong the first time. I think it's just a question of getting used to the pattern - so I suppose I recommend treating the first as a practice, and expecting to muck it up.

Don't know @crbear might be worth a look on YouTube to see if there are any other videos. I struggle with reading patterns xx it looks beautiful

@CRbear - I'm stuck on Round 7 also - tried again yesterday.

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Thanks for this thread

Thanks for the tips everyone! I took a break from the octagon and boosted my confidence doing a square instead - ready to reattempt the octagon again now! Going to redo round 6 using your instructions @Pashazade - thanks so much for writing it out like that- in case that’s the problem (I think it is now I’m looking at it with fresh eyes- the youtube video definitely over simplified round 6). I’ll report back!

@leafygarden42 let me know how you get on! Which colour way are you doing?

I'm doing the Eastern Jewels colourway - really struggling with the fans now- didn't get round 7 right either ---- giving it a rest sounds like the way forward.

The pattern as it's written doesn't make any sense to me at the moment.

Forgot to add - AAAARRRRGGGGhhhhh

Right I’m sure I’ve got 6 right now and 7 was going SO WELL! But halfway round and it is suddenly out of sync! This will not defeat me but by god it’s frustrating

I’m doing eastern jewels too @Pashazade - it’s so pretty! Here’s my completed square - atleast I can do those (although I did have to do two attempts..)

@CRbear , hope it does settle down, those rounds are tricky. Sorry my explanation went round the houses a bit! I did the blue and orange colourway originally but the jewels one is gorgeous! Good luck oh and if you do want me to diagram it out I'm happy to. I always think pattern writers are copping out a bit when they don't include a diagram because they can really help when you're not sure as to exactly where a stitch should go!

Sorry @Pashazade - I @‘ed the wrong person - that was meant for @leafygarden42!

Thank you everyone- after the umpteenth time I’ve finally completed round 7! Once I got round six sorted, on round 7 it was such a silly thing in the end... I missed that you were meant to skip the chain AND a DC when doing the 3 chain small loop...!

Oh well done @CRbear. It really is the small details that can catch you out. I must say with Persian tiles I did it production line style and worked each round for all sixteen tiles and then did the next and so on, as that way you get used to the pattern for each round and don't have to figure it all out again when you haven't done it for a week or so. Given you generally change colours between rounds it didn't feel like a faff to do.

I'm still looking at the pattern with terror. Is there any other YouTube videos? I'm a visual learner and just cant her it until I see it.

Seemed like a good idea at the time 😭

I made this last year and didn't really enjoy it. But it does look very good when done.

After making my first couple I realized that I should be doing them all on the same rounds so it's fresh if your head, otherwise if you make one at a time you'll have to re-remember each time.

Okay - I made a fresh attempt yesterday and have been on a learning curve that has been quite steep at times

I'm doing a 'practise' hexagon tile with spare wool, as did not want to waste any more wool. It turns out the pattern is right (hehehe) - you just have to really pay attention. I had missed the fact it is a double treble crochet stitch in round 5. I have learned what a half treble stitch is. I have learned about cluster stitches.

My tension is looser than what they suggest, so I had been using a 3.5mm hook for everything. This means for the fans I am using a 3.0mm hook. But this ain't working well because it is getting sooo tight, and it is unbelievably hard doing the second bit of the fan when you're facing wrong side. Do you think I should just stick with the 3.5mm?

Thank you to anyone who has read all that - I might be having a party when I've finished one of these tiles.....

@ConeHat The youtube video I found is not in English and more importantly does not exactly follow the same pattern - especially on Round 7 - which I found confusing.

I'm quite a 'junior' crochet person though, and have only made an Attic 24 blanket before.

@Pashazade thanks! Yes I think that has to be the way to go. I just wanted to see if I could do it first I think? I’ve done the fans and row 8 now so nearly there! Thanks for the tip too @AndWhatNext - I’m not sure I’m going to enjoy sewing in all the threads but the finished product is certainly inspiring.

@ConeHat - the only ones I found, like the one linked, aren’t exactly right so it led to further issues for me. Can I help in any way? Photographs or something?

@leafygarden42 I had to look up all the stitches again too because I’ve used US terms before. It’s a good learning project. I’ve used a 4.5mm for everything so far ... I don’t know what effect it’s going to have but it’s part of the reason I’m doing a piece of each pattern all the way through to see if it fits. It’s good they give finished measurements. With the fans- are you remembering to do the chain stitch between trebles? I only found there was no room when I forgot (which triggered the memory haha!).

If you go production line, sew the ends after each round is done. It gives your hands a break from holding the hook and takes absolutely no time and is way less painful than leaving them to the end. Also these needles are brilliant for this sort of thing.

There is a lovely Facebook group that can give lots of help with this pattern! Persian Tiles crochet help group.

I’ve tried to join @shivbo2014 but I haven’t had my request accepted a week later so think perhaps it’s gone cold!