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Antenatal/prenatal depression: IT DOES GET BETTER

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Gazzio1980 · 09/03/2018 13:08

Hi,

I'm posting this because a few months ago I genuinely wanted to die and in those dark days I spent hours looking for answers and reassurance online. So I hope this message helps somebody...

My antenatal depression kicked in immediately (6 or 8 weeks). This is an IVF pregnancy, so supposedly a much wanted baby!! I cried through the 12 week scan and had to pretend they were tears of happiness. Everytime somebody congratulated us, I felt guilty because my brain was telling me that I did not want to be pregnant. I cried a lot, I became distant from my husband, I lost interest in everything and regularly thought about suicide or abortion. I also had terrifying intrusive thoughts about potentially harming the baby when it arrived. I know that's awful, but I think it's important to tell the truth. And, to top it all, I stopped sleeping. For the first 16 weeks of the pregnancy I slept a maximum of 2-3 hours per night and frankly my life was falling apart. The first GP I saw ( a man) said there was nothing they could do and that 'some women find pregnancy a natural anti-depressant'. I'm here to tell you not to accept rubbish like that. There is help out there, it can take a while to access it, but keep trying. I booked another appointment with a different GP (at this point my husband was afraid to leave me alone things were so bad) and she was much more useful. With her help I accessed our local perinatal mental health team and within a week I was receiving weekly visits from a perinatal mental health midwife and had been referred to both a psychologist and a psychiatrist. The waiting list for counselling via GP would have been 6-9 months, so going via the perinatal route was vital. I dread to think what would have happened if I'd had to wait for help. I know the help I've just listed sounds a bit scary and full on, but it was actually wonderful. I started weekly talking therapy with the psychologist (I've never been a believer before but it really helped) and saw the psychiatrist twice. The psychiatrist convinced me that I'd become so depressed I needed some chemical help to rebalance the chemicals in my brain, so after torturing myself with guilt for a few more weeks I started on a low dose of Sertraline (25mg). I won't lie, things got worse before they got better - apparently that happens on SSRIs. My anxiety attacks increased and my insomnia got even worse. However, after about 8/9 weeks (you really have to stick with it!) I noticed that I was having fewer dark thoughts. I experienced a dip again a few weeks later, but that's because of my low dose. I'm now 29 weeks and taking 50mg. I have regular growth scans because it's an IVF pregnancy and all is fine with baby. But most importantly, I'm back! I'm buying things for the baby, I'm excited and I'm now sleeping 6/7 hours per night despite of all the back aches and usual pregnancy ailments etc! I am at greater risk of PND when baby arrives, but because I've already accessed the perinatal team, they will be there to support me If I need it. I no longer see the perinatal midwife every week, but I have continued with the counselling. Anyway, I hope this cheers somebody up who might be feeling that they will never be themselves again. Couple of things I've learnt from this experience: 1. Perinatal mental health help varies lots depending on where you live and there is very low awareness amongst GPs that it exists. Do your own research as if you rely on being referred you might miss out. 2. Anti depressants are NOT a quick fix, but they do work. It felt like a long time before mine kicked in. I was constantly googling to see why mine weren't working 3. Insomnia and anxiety are linked, so your sleep will improve when you're calmer. You're probably convinced you'll never sleep again ( I was) but you will. I read lots of articles about Magnesium being good for insomnia and stress so found a really high quality supplement (be careful if your multivit already contains it) and it has worked absolute wonders! Within 2 weeks it had lessened my restless legs and alongside the sertraline, had improved my sleep. Oh and extra bonus, it also cured my preggo constipation - double bonus!! (But be careful how much you take as it can make things loose......!!) . Anyway, very sorry for long ramble, but hope this helps somebody x

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Reader1984 · 24/03/2018 06:40

Thank you. This has helped me. I dragged myself to the doctor 2 days ago having experienced similar symptoms to you. But also a denial that I'm even pregnant. I am waiting for the perinatal team to get in touch and am hopeful of a better time. Thank you again.

Gazzio1980 · 24/03/2018 07:31

I’m really glad. It’s such a frightening time, but I absolutely promise you that it is possible to feel like yourself again. Good luck x

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beckyh2502 · 27/03/2018 12:05

I'm 20+4 today with my first baby (girl) and this post has really hit home for me. It's nice to know there are others feeling this way. I made an appointment to see the GP around 6 weeks ago & finally have a CBT appointment with a counsellor in 2 weeks time. He prescribed me cyclazene (I think) but I didn't want to start them until I'd spoken with a counsellor.
I found out I was expecting in December and was so terrified that my parents would be disappointed, my partner would leave, I'd be totally alone and I couldn't do it that I ended up in such a bad state it caused me to lose my job! (not going in to work, not communicating etc).
I feel like I'm slowly getting there now I know everyone around me is supportive etc but it's still the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life and I wish there was more help available!

Gazzio1980 · 27/03/2018 20:44

I think it’s much more common than people think, but women are often too ashamed to talk about it. I’m glad you’ve accessed the help, keep pushing until you feel better. X

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ClaraSais · 04/04/2018 21:26

I had PND and thank you for putting up this thread. I really really struggled and didn't get the support I desperately needed, I have uploaded a vlog about it to my channel Clara Sais. Hugs and love to you all xx

BumbleNova · 04/04/2018 21:31

I'm here too. Just in such a dark place, I've not admitted this out loud but I just want to disappear atm. I'm struggling to sleep and then getting out of bed is a battle. I had counseling today, fingers crossed it starts to help.

BumbleNova · 04/04/2018 21:32

Flowers to everyone else. I hope you start to feel better.

Gazzio1980 · 05/04/2018 06:24

Hang in there. I’m now 32 weeks and have gradually got better with each passing week. Stick with the counselling and accept every tiny bit of help you’re offered. You can get through this. I had my death planned and now I can’t stop shopping for our baby.....so anything is possible! X

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MrsDx · 23/04/2018 16:52

Thank you for this. On days like this when life feels so dark and scary it’s hard to believe but you’ve pushed me to chasing stuff up with the hospital and midwife etc. thank you for your honesty x

Gazzio1980 · 23/04/2018 17:41

MrsDX hang in there. Keep pushing people to help you. You don’t get anything from the NHS by being too polite. And be honest, even if it makes you uncomfortable. Good luck and take care x

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ClaraSais · 23/04/2018 18:00

I agree - really lay it on the line with the doc and say how you feel.

MrsDx · 23/04/2018 18:29

I did that today though and was told basically if things get really bad to go to the hospital. So if I want to kill myself they’ll take me seriously and section me but if I’m ‘just’ ruining all my relationships, making everyone worry about me, fucking my unborn baby up with all my stress and isolating myself more and more they’ll send me on my merry way. What if this is just how I am now

Gazzio1980 · 23/04/2018 18:58

MrsDx, not sure where you live but try google perinatal mental health team in your area and referring yourself. Your midwife should also be doing more too. I know it’s hard but keep pushing. The first GP I saw couldn’t have been more useless, the second was much better. And no, this isn’t just the way you are now. You’re ill. That’s all, and with treatment you will get better. Keep on going. You can absolutely recover from this x

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MrsDx · 23/04/2018 20:47

It means so much to me that you’re being so kind. Thank you x

GeminiWarrior · 23/04/2018 20:58

I did not have an experience as difficult as you OP but I did suffer postnatal depression.

My DD was very unwell when born and we were back and forward to the hospital for weeks. I became a zombie who could not eat, could not sleep, could not do anything other than physically function to do the things I needed to do. All the visitors were respectful that I wasn’t 100% given ill baby but I still had to put on a massive front and say ‘all the right things’ not ‘I WANT SOMEONE TO TAKE THIS BABY AWAY AND NEVER COME BACK, I CANT COPE, I AM HAVING SUICIDAL THOUGHTS.’ I should have sought medical help but I didn’t. Luckily I have had depression in the past- I was already on citalopram so continued with those, and slowly the dark cloud lifted. I remember it being about 6 weeks after dd was born that I properly laughed. And about 3 months before I felt anywhere near content.

And now she is 6 months and my whole world. Her smile makes my day brighter and I wouldn’t be without her for anything.

The darkness can lift, and will lift. Seek help
(Not that I am a good example of that!) and be strong. Flowers

GeminiWarrior · 23/04/2018 21:03

Oh dear I just realised this is only for antenatal depression! Mine was obvs post. Sorry!

MrsDx · 23/04/2018 21:40

It still helps to hear other women’s experiences! I’m terrified of PND as I had it with my daughter 12 years ago x

FizzTime · 26/04/2018 11:14

Thank you so much. Am ten weeks pregnant and struggling so much, exactly as you describe, and then feeling so guilty for having such dark thoughts. It's so lovely you took the time to write this and has helped me enormously. I'm already booked in to see GP, wait times are horrendous where I live unfortunately (I don't even have a midwife yet) but your kind words and practical advice are immeasurably helpful and comforting. Thank you ThanksStar xxx

Gazzio1980 · 26/04/2018 12:32

FizzTime, I’m sorry to hear you’re struggling, but we’ll done for trying to get help so quickly. I’m glad the post helped. I feel really strongly about this subject because I’ve realized it’s really common, hardly anybody talks about it and help can be hard to find! Pregnancy is hard enough! So many of my friends have now admitted to me that they struggled with their mental health before or after the birth, so even if you feel abnormal, you’re really not! If only it was discussed more openly. Good luck and keep reminding yourself you’ll get through this x

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LittleMissB83 · 30/04/2018 08:45

Thank you for such an honest post. I’m so glad that things are much better for you now; well done for pushing to get the right support and treatment.

Have had some similar experience. I have a long history of mental health issues including depression, anxiety and complex PTSD. I was taking sertraline for anxiety when I fell pregnant with my DS (and came off the medication immediately, this was on GP advice although still unsure if it was the right decision). I had a lot of health problems in pregnancy and by about 24 weeks had severe anxiety again: mainly manifesting as a fixed belief that my baby would die. It became unbearable, and I was crying all the time. Eventually I spoke to GP and got a super quick referral for counselling: I had no idea you get priority for services if you are pregnant. The counselling really helped me up until I gave birth. I had an EMCS and traumatic birth in which my DS’ life was at risk so have been dealing with that (he is now 9 weeks), and along with extreme sleep deprivation I have been on the edge at times and wondered If I have PND, but think I’m just the right side of the threshold at the moment!! (Thanks to amazing support from the right places). I am keeping the option open of going back on medication if it is on with BF. That said in many ways having a baby has changed me and given my life a new purpose (not to say everyone will feel the same way). I would reiterate the importance of being honest with friends, family, GP and being brave enough to seek the support you might need, because ultimately baby won’t be ok if Mum is not!

Gazzio1980 · 30/04/2018 09:12

@LittleMissB83 Wow, you sound like you have had it really tough. I'm so glad your baby boy is ok. If it helps, I think your GP was very hasty taking you off meds. Because mine is an IVF baby, I've been under the care of two obstetricians, a midwife and the GP and the one thing they ALL agree on is that Sertraline is the safest thing out there and that it's dangerous for women with depression/anxiety to come off their meds when pregnant. So, don't leave it too long before asking for help. I felt so guilty about taking tablets. I still do and yes, I still have worries that I might have caused him health problems. But the med team have told me that's a very, very old fashioned view and that untreated anxiety, depression and insomnia has a much greater impact on a growing baby. Plus, if I'm honest with myself I know that without the combination of tablets and counselling I might not still be here! I hope you manage to keep your head above water, it must be so tough feeling like that and having a new baby to look after x

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LittleMissB83 · 30/04/2018 09:16

I’m sure you have made the right decision and in retrospect wish I’d made the same one! In the end my DS had serious health problems and I can’t believe the sertraline would have made it any worse. But we are all here to tell the tale fortunately. Good luck with everything, I remember feeling excited like that before baby arrived, hope everything goes smoothly with the birth and you can enjoy your baby when he/she gets here :)

Hollyjohnson6 · 28/05/2018 00:38

I am so happy to hear you have got the help you need and your feeling better. I have only just accessed help and i truely cannot see a brighter side. Im sat here sobbing because of what i read as i want to believe it so badly that things will ease but myhead wontlet me. I am 23 weeks wothmy 1st. I am a lone parent as the father left because of the pregnancy. Every friend i had has stopped talking to me. I havent left the house in weeks and every day is getting darker. I have had one visit from the peri natal nurse but councelling andtherapy in the past hasnt worked for me and medication makes me really sick from the side effects. I am giving up all hope now, i want to be excited and happy but i feel that is long gone now andmy future is being alone and unhappy with a baby i will resent because of this

Gazzio1980 · 28/05/2018 08:26

Holly, your situation sounds really hard but please don’t give up on yourself. If you’d seen me before and were able to see me now then you would believe miracles can happen. Don’t write off counseling. I couldn’t see it working for me but it eventually did. Also don’t rule out medication, yes the side effects will make you worse in the very short term but it settles, I promise. You can even ask to start on s child’s dode. One more thing, you need a support network. I felt isolated from my friends too as felt they couldn’t understand my feelings, so I joined an NCT/antenatal class. Making a few friends who were all as sh*t scared as me (some were even suffering from same anxiety/depression) made things SO much better. Don’t give up xx

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Gazzio1980 · 28/05/2018 08:27

That should say child’s dose

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