To be thinking f*k this sh*t re work?

I did say that progression and improvement wasn't necessarily about payrises.

I’ve worked in the NHS for 12 years now and I’ve seen a lot of people who have been in the role for many decades who are very obstructive to any changes and find any reason to object to them as they just want to carry on doing things the way they’ve always done them.

Exactly this except I’m not NHS, I’m in a different part of the public sector.

OP there are loads of negative people where I work who criticise everything so I’m sure you won’t stand out 😆

My MIL was one of these people, when she talked about work I always felt really sorry for her line manager! Sadly she worked until retirement age in order to claim the maximum pension and then died within two years, she should have left long before that.

I'm in exactly the same position... been in authority for 30+ years, but in my now role around 15.

I'm good at my job, enjoy the different projects and variety and have a reached management stage and level of responsibility I'm happy with and proud of ...but honestly am so fed up with all the re-structures/new initiatives every time the top management tier is changed. Recently attended a course which mirrored something I'd attended almost 20 years ago but was called by a different name and introduced as a new concept ... So tired of the bullshit and pretending to give a fuck. But don't want to appear like one of those grumpy old institutionalised bastards. even though I am

Can't now be bothered to do anything else other than wait to retire.

I spent 6 years in the public sector and have spent the last 2 thinking fuck this shit. The job itself is fab, but you are right - it’s the buzzwords, the latest idea to implement, all of which fizzle out within 6 months and then 6 months later it’s a new buzzword and latest idea….
just get one with the job 🙄 it survived and thrived for decades before all this nonsense.
I’ve left now, my heart just wasn’t in all the fluff

I’ve worked in the NHS for 12 years now and I’ve seen a lot of people who have been in the role for many decades who are very obstructive to any changes

That will be because they’ve gone through God knows how many restructures. I think I lived through four in my time in the NHS. The reason people are change averse is because there’s nothing new under the sun and, if you’ve been in a job for decades, you’ve seen it all before. The only way I could survive a long NHS career was to keep changing jobs.

Not Public Sector but I have worked in the same industry for 30+ years and now in my early 50s I have lost my enthusiasm for all the bullshit that exists.

I was head hunted by my current company just over 5 years ago and it sounded really great and for the first 18 months I gave it everything, then I realised that the Senior Leadership didn't give a damn, there was infighting between departments, the management of the company overall was appalling and all the staff were demotivated.
I was ready to leave, but they were starting a new division that interested me so I agreed to join, we were just getting up and running when COVID hit.
The long and short of it is that the staff in general were treated very badly through the pandemic with most being furloughed or made redundant, I was one of the small team expected to work throughout. We were all transferred to working from home, where we remain. There is now a dysfunctional team working for a director who can't manage, the only saving grace is that we are not that busy so I can work 4-6 hours per day and get paid a full-time salary and being at home means I can avoid most of the stress and ridiculousness. I don't have the energy to go and look for a new job so I an just marking time until I can retire, the mortgage is paid, DH will do another 5-7 years, I think I will be done within 5.

I wonder if all the people moaning (the irony) about "negative" people have ever seen that Mitchell and Webb sketch -

Did you ever stop to think all the people that you accuse of "being negative" might actually be right? There is such a thing as toxic positivity, where people talk bollocks for its own sake.

You're not in the NHS are you OP?
They really are the worlds worst at reinventing the wheel!

Funding is found for some "shiny new initiative" all bells and whistles. Presentations are done to publicised how great this usually quite expensive because of course they have to be band 6s service is. And then someone points out that such and such a service has been doing that for the last 20 yrs and they could have just used their expertise🤷🏼‍♀️

Its time for you to look for another job. You are not happy and are dissatisfied all round and that is unlikely to change in this role.

I've been a primary school teacher for 15 years, and things tend to go round in trends every 5-6 years, pimped up like its the latest new cool thing. It's infuriating. It didn't work 10 years ago, why's it going to work any better now?

I soo felt like this - you are my tribe 😉
Thankfully I was able to take early retirement on final salary pension during the last lockdown and have never been happier. No 5.30am commute into the office, corporate bullshit bingo during senior management calls, or reinventing the wheel with every senior manager on a 3 year rotation/cost cutting restructure before they move on. It's bliss!
I do some freelance work for my old company on specific projects and will do that for a further 6 months on my own terms whilst I finish an MA in a subject I love. Then I'll start to travel

Did you ever stop to think all the people that you accuse of "being negative" might actually be right? There is such a thing as toxic positivity, where people talk bollocks for its own sake.

LOL I was only stating the facts which is that the OP won’t exactly stand out if she starts criticising everything because in my experience there are loads of people who do this in the public sector.

I am taking a career break, mostly due to caring responsibilities but also because I was struggling with the endless twittering of some new recruits to my [management] grade. Their enthusiasm and double-speak was overwhelming, and I couldn't match my Director's tolerance for it. Listening to them twitter and him respond was like some kind of [boring] birdwatching

I am hoping a few years away will enable me to go back more tolerant refreshed and ready for the next 20 years of my career

Arrrg appraisal time really boils my piss! Totally with you op!

Love this.

Please, please, stop it with the nested quotes. You talking to living breathing humans, not gold fish. And no one, not a single person, will read that stuff. And who needs to quote the OP when that post is at the top of the page, and unless someone else is tagged, who else are you responding to?. You are all making this site unusable.

I am aiming to retire in 3 years as I similarly am sick of much of the stuff discussed here. I am not sure I’ll make it.

Been in both private & public, if you think public is bad you should see big private companies. We had three versions of a new multi million pound computer system installed, about a three year gap between each one. None of them worked, each time a new fast tracker came along to say how bad the current one was and introduce a new version from a different vendor which wouldn't work. They all got promoted to senior positions as they moved on before the system failed. Nobody too account of the fact that the systems didn't do what the business did. They spent millions on it and I believe are trying again. Meanwhile a couple of IT developers/support wrote a small system that does all the business needs and its running alongside the commercial systems actually managing the business.
Private sector is the place to be if you can talk impressive bullshit and move on before it all falls apart.

I did this. Nearly 10 years in local government. Sat there one day and though 'what's the fucking point?'!

Sent my resignation there and then with immediate effect and was relieved that I didn't have to take a deep breath before going through the door every morning!

Never looked back! (although I do miss the flexi time!)

Me too OP. I walk around our offices with a face like Grotbags - a mixture of grimace and menace (remember The Pink Windmill?). I've simply had enough. Kaizen, TQM, Six Sigma, Lean, Just in Time, Agile, or whatever the next twerp blows in with. Black belt in Six Sigma you say? Hmm.... And Nigel in accounts can't even make his karate chop joke anymore after HR had words...

I am counting down the days till I can vanish. I do enjoy my actual work. I used to have a lot of fun with colleagues. But working in organisations just seems to eventually wear you down until you simply can't tolerate it any longer.

I have given up. It is all bullshit, everywhere.

I nod and smile and collect my paycheck.

Just enjoying my life these days. I do the job I get paid, I draw happiness from elsewhere.

Early retirement for me. It's a lovely job but I am so over it. Don't want to wait until I'm too old to enjoy traveling with Dh, spending more time with our dc, gc and friends. Hate having to cram everything into weekends.

YADNBU. I have 14 years to go before I can retire unless a miracle happens in the meantime and I have been thoroughly sick of all the businessballs nonsense for years now.

The petty egos, the absurd diktats that we all have to be leaders, senior managers who seem to have eff all to do except call stupid meetings about hot air every five minutes, the arrogant new grads who think they're the cats pyjamas when they have the life experience of a newly born flea, and recently astonishingly high levels of misogyny amongst some of the boys which we've been told we're not allowed to tackle as the latest new arrivals are so very special...I'm thoroughly sick of it all.

In my 30s and even my early 40s I was still reasonably ambitious but people did not retire as they would have in previous generations so the jobs weren't there, and now 22 year olds with a year's experience are going into matrons jobs and above and I just can't be bothered any more.

The only way I've been able to cope is by changing job every 4 years or so.

(14 years to go....)