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to wonder what the point is in the school cake sale...?

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Ladyanonymous · 28/06/2010 19:19

Three kids at three schools.

All have numerous "cake sales" throughout the year where we - the parent - are sent a paper plate with a little note on it from the plate itself requesting that we - the parent - fill the little plate with cakes and send it back to school to be sold at the "cake sale".

We are then requested to either take time out of work or whatever one afternoon to attend the "cake sale" or send our child in with some money to buy these cakes back.

Can we bake these cakes with our darling DCs at minumum cost to ourselves? Of course not, its against "health and safety" regs apparently.

So AIBU to think I would just rather cut out the middle man and donate the amount of money its cost me - to buy the cakes and buy them back again for the umpteenth time - to the school - either by a regular monthly direct debit (and while I'm at it lump in the total of every other "voluntary donation" in that sum too). Than go through the facade of the bloody "cake sale".

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1701tribbles · 02/07/2010 09:57

Dietary message of home baked cakes would surely be - has less sugar, salt, and fat than shop-bought, no saturated fats or less of them, and tastes good!

And some of us use wholemeal flours and dairy free margarines, and healthy fruit and nuts too to boost those monounsaturated fatty acids! Tasty.

And well worth the little money they generate for funds.

babybarrister · 02/07/2010 10:49

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scaryteacher · 02/07/2010 13:01

As an active member of a PTA, and someone who gives up large amounts of time to help out, I think LA has a point.

Ds's school runs a charity week each year when all the school is involved in fundraising to benefit local Belgian charities and several overseas, all worthy causes. It costs a fortune for the parents....money has to be provided each day; sometimes a certain colour clothing has to be worn, or the child gets 'fined'; cakes need to be baked, and help provided. I sometimes think it would be easier to just give 30 euros and they'd raise as much. The point being really that the parents pay anyway, as the kids get the money from the parents. Why not cut out the week and ask for a donation? Many of us are so hacked off with it that we'd do this.

I also have to say that whilst interactive whiteboards are nice (for those that raise funds for them), a competent teacher is more relevant than the whiteboard, especially when there's a power cut. I think teaching is becoming over reliant on technology. I don't mind raising money for books though....

gillybean2 · 02/07/2010 18:13

OP I know you are a busy working mum, and I do know that not everyone on a PTA maybe understands that. Life is like that on many issues.

I have tried really hard to drum it into those at our school that it doesn't matter if you donate an item, or give your time for a stall or baking a cake, or come along and spend your money we are grateful for whatever you can do or give.
Because as long as you do something you are supporting the school and your children.

If everyone donated and no-one bought we'd have no money. And if you can't afford to donate an item then giving your time to run a stall can actually be more valuable. Volunteers can sometimes be the hardest to find for fetes etc.

Also while some parents would prefer to give a donations (and certainly I know at least two of the 4 secondary schools around here do this), there are plenty of parents who object to giving the school money for any reason.

Our local primary school asks for a donation towards the upkeep of its swimming pool & the qualified swimming teacher they employ in the summer. They also ask for fruit for KS2 children at 10p a day (KS1 get for free). A significant number of those asked don't pay. Some because they can't afford to and some because they don't want too.

The short fall is picked up by the PTA. I know many of those same parents (some who can't afford to pay, but also some who won't pay but can afford takeaways and more than one holiday a year) wouldn't volunteer to give money to school to save them having to donate to cake sales etc.

However some of those that won't pay for 'nothing' will come along and buy things at the school fete. And we always ensure that there is a range of activities at different prices to suit everyones budget.

I know one lady who can't afford to donate, she gives her time instead. And her children get to help on her stall and then get to have a free go on things after they have helped their mum a bit. So maybe if your children were willing to help sell the cakes they'd get given some for 'free'.

There's only about 100 children at our primary school. At Xmas we raised over £200 on the fete (santa's grotto is expensive and he also needed a new outfit and haircut this year!), but out easter fete raised over £400. Which I think is pretty good going.

Our summer fete is next week and I am not expecting huge profits, because this fete is about having fun while raising some money. It's about giving the Yr 6 a good send off, involving the community involvement and fun for all the family.
For example there were actually two older ladies waiting outside school today for the fete. They had the wrong week but were clearly keen to come along (OK I do admit that not much goes on in our village so any event is exciting!) And I doubt they'll be on the bouncy castle so are probably hoping for some tasty home made cakes.

PTA work jolly hard, and they get it from all sides. They're never going to please everyone. But they do understand that not everyone can donate or has time to bake or sell cakes. They appreciate just as much those who come along and buy them. At least I keep telling our PTA members that's the case. I certainly believe that.

And for the record, when I was working long hours I was never able to donate time. Now I work shorter (school) hours and I choose to give up time to plan, organise and run the fete. Give what you can, and if you prefer to give a monthly or annual donation (with gift aid) then go for it. Suggest it to the school, you probably aren't the only one who feels like that if the secondary schools around here are anything to go by. But equally there are people who like the fun, social side of cake stalls and fetes, and those who like to get something for their money.

Not every school event is about raising huge amounts of cash. Every little helps.

wombella · 02/07/2010 22:43

That is complete rubbish. The school gets a lump sum based on number of pupils then the Governors set a budget based on the recommendations of the Headteacher. The school therefore chooses how many whiteboards or not they buy not the LA. Speak to the Head if they are choosing the wrong things, most schools have lots of money in contingency & the LA is trying to make sure they all spend it on the pupils!
So much ill thought out rubbish on this post.

notapizzaeater · 03/07/2010 17:15

As a govenor and a member of the PTA I agree the school gets money and then decides how it is spent but after all the essential things wages, maintenance, gas, electric etc there is not a lot left. The money the PTA raise makes a huge difference to the "experience"

ByThePowerOfGreyskull · 03/07/2010 17:24

I love our PTA, they work really hard to provide the extras that make our village primary school so fab.

they have paid for the infant playground play equipment to be taken out and gorgeous new stuff to be installed.

and next week the junior playground will have new play equipment as well.

it brings parents together to believe in the school and yes, it would be easier for us all to get a bill at the beginning of the year asking for £100, BUT there would be no buy in with that.

one of the most fantastic things they do is ice lollies in the summer term. Each friday they have 3 cool boxes (one in each playground) selling ice lollies for 50p not much money even if you have a few children and it makes the pta about £800 a year.

We have a cake stall thing coming up, and thankfully we are allowed to make our own and it is a joy to see the variety of shapes and sizes - even so I always opt for the carrot cake baked by my friend as it is the best in the world!

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