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that my daughter was assaulted today and there are no police available to deal with it

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Poshwellies · 24/06/2010 22:32

DD whose 15, was quite badly assaulted in school today,suffered a 1 inch chunk out of her lip due to being being punched in the face by a girl with a ring on.

She was escorted home by a teacher and after I took her to the GP surgery to be examined and cleaned up, I called the police to report the assault,this was at 4.30.They said they would send out some officers asap.

Just had a call from the police saying sorry,but we are overrun at Glastonbury and have no available police to record the incident,we will try and get out tomorrow,blah blah..

Not Serious enough I guess,but you'd bloody well think they'd sort out police for local incidents,life doesn't stop just because of sodding Glastonbury.

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pontypandy · 28/06/2010 12:58

Really hope ur DD is ok.

Did she go back to school 2day?

I had somthing like this happen to me when i was at school (14) and i didnt want to go back to school but in the end i went back with help from my mum and m8s.

Poshwellies · 28/06/2010 13:34

She has flatly refused to go to school today.

My husband rang school this morning to explain the situation,they didn't seem that bothered tbh,just said 'We really want her ack at school',yup,so do we.

They are trying to sort out alternative school transport for this girl (they are on the same bus for the 6 mile journey).

No more news from the police.

I'm feeling low about it all.

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HeywoodJablome · 28/06/2010 13:47

Your poor DD.

I don't blame her not wanting to go back, she needs to know she will be safe.

pontypandy · 28/06/2010 14:18

the school seems a bit shit tbh they dont really seem to care how ur DD feels they just want her back in school to keep attendance rates up probley

FanjolinaJolie · 28/06/2010 17:56

Really for your DD

giraffesCanDanceInTheSun · 28/06/2010 18:26

Thats absolute shit

Poshwellies · 28/06/2010 18:46

It seems the girl who assaulted dd was excluded for 2 days.2 days for a vicious attacked which included wounding? I'm shocked at the lack of 'serious' stance that the school took and the fact the girl was out in our town later the same day she was excluded tells me her parents couldn't give a flying toss.

I'm so pissed with everyone.

Had school transport on the phone earlier,they can't put this girl on a different bus route there is only one bus for her area (which includes going though our town)so it's dd who has to go on a different bus.

No news from Police.

I can see all of this going tits up with dd who already has learning difficulties (dyspraxia) and finds school difficult.

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Tiredmumno1 · 28/06/2010 20:45

Maybe you should be letting ss know that this horrid little bitch is roaming around and her parents dont give a toss.

i cant believe you have kept your cool, if it was my dd, she would not be trying it again, i dont care how old she is, if she is big enough to dish it yada yada.

demand that she is expelled otherwise get on to your local mp, the schook has a responsibility to your dd. the other twat lost her priveleges when she raised her fist.

throw everything you can at her, she should never be allowed to get away with this.

sorry on your behalf

Tiredmumno1 · 28/06/2010 20:46

school

expatinscotland · 28/06/2010 20:49

You may have to do what a girl in Scotland did. Her school did nothing about the bullying she endured, including serious assault like this one, resulting in broken bones.

So she won Legal Aid to sue the council.

That was the only thing that got their attention.

And they wound up having to pick up the tab for her to go to private school.

My daughter also has dyspraxia.

I would not be sending her back to that school where that girl is.

Ever. Even I had to pull her out and homeschool her, send her back to my family in the US, you name it.

And I'd press charges and look into civil lawsuit.

Poshwellies · 28/06/2010 21:03

I told the police my views on this 'girl' and told them I was beginning to lose my patience.
The PC said she wouldn't be charged as she had no previous and at 15,our local force doesn't like dishing out criminal records to under 16's if they can help it.

Dd said she will try school tomorrow,but in all honesty I can't see it working,we've been told dd can stay in with a teacher at breaks/lunchtime-why the fuck should she? She is the victim and not the offender,why the hell should her school routine change and this girl continues to lord it up?

She leaves next May-would it an option to pull her out and homeschool? at the thought though

Headmaster hasn't called me neither has form tutor etc.

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expatinscotland · 28/06/2010 21:18

It's always your right to pull her out and homeschool.

There are tons of threads on here about it, too. How to do it, curriculum, etc.

Or change schools. I realise that's not possible always.

Tiredmumno1 · 28/06/2010 21:19

its horrid to hear your dd is going to be the one to suffer.

phone the head in the morning and explain all of what you said to us, and ask him/her to give you one good reason why they have not expelled the girl. and even if it is her first offence, violence like that should not be tolerated.

the school are basically saying to all the other kids its ok to punch someone, and they will get away with it.

you really need to do this, and if they dont listen take it further. even write to the papers about it. they are condoning this girls actions. but in reality they should be bending over backwards for your dd - the victim

Poshwellies · 28/06/2010 21:20

Thanks expat.

Will have a look and a ponder.

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expatinscotland · 28/06/2010 21:25

It's one of the most common reasons people homeschool, sadly.

Tiredmumno1 · 28/06/2010 21:26

Out of curiosity posh, whats your dd's view on the home tutoring?

Vallhala · 28/06/2010 21:51

Posh, I sympathise. When DD1 was punched in the face at school the girl also only received a 2 day exclusion. The Police cautioned her. We didn't have the bus problem but DD1, like your DD, was told that she could spend lunch and break with a teacher instead of the perpetrator being singled out and isolated from HER friends and normal routines.

DD1 bravely refused the offer and told them why. Luckily she had good support from her friends if not from the school and we moved shortly afterwards, as was our plan anyway, so my DDs went by necessity to a different school.

The caution had a fair effect on the girl as she wanted to become a nursery nurse and feared that her punishment would prevent this. Added to that, I made it clear that if she tried to lay a finger on DD1 again, she'd have me to answer to.

The sad thing is that DD1s crime was to have told a teacher that the child had used all the paper and thus the teacher would need some more. Apparently, that was 'grassing up' the girl.

If you get no satisfaction from the school I'd suggest that you involve the LA and your MP and if DD continues to refuse to attend the school also contact education welfare BEFORE they contact you. Better to be seen as a pro-active, caring parent who wants her child to be educated (IN SAFETY!) than one who could be accused of choosing to keep DD off. IME there are certain LAs/sectors of LAs who would rather the parents and child carry the can for what the rest of us would consider to be a perfectly valid reason for school refusal than admit that their school is at fault. It would therefore be in your interest to contact them for advice on getting DD back into school and feeling, as well as being safe, and there is either govt guidance or part of the Education Act (sorry, I forget which), which states that the child has a right to FEEL safe as well as be so.

A word with the education law solicitors at the Children's Legal Centre (details online) might well be helpful too, as might a bullying helpline and a chat with Red Balloon, the group of schools for bullied and fearful children. A friend in a similar position, although unable to afford their fees, found them very helpful.

Poshwellies · 28/06/2010 21:53

She has always found school difficult tbh due to her dyspraxia.
I'm not sure I could teach her at home,I'm probably being selfish but I'm unsure I would have the patience ,getting her to do any coursework has been major meltdown moments here.

She is doing ok with IT and Maths but her predicted grades are D's and below-she's just not into it and nothing we say makes any difference.She has had extra help with after school lessons and she gets extra time with exams but that's about it.

It's all a bit shit tbh.

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Poshwellies · 28/06/2010 22:00

Thanks for that information Vall.

Sounds like you had a identicial situation.

I'm glad your dd has moved onto somewhere where she feels safe.

I have told the school this morning that dd refused to attend-not really for their benefit but more for covering us and attendance 'issues'.

I will call education Welfare tomorrow if she gets up and has a change of mind about attending school.

We just don't need any of this,this year is really important and I didn't want anything upsetting her schoolwork as I said,she finds lessons and the basic education tough enough.

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Poshwellies · 28/06/2010 22:01

excuse my crap spelling

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FlookCrow · 28/06/2010 22:14

Purely playing devil's advocate here..

But is there any chance your DD could go back to school.. and see what happens? This nasty bully has had such a good reaction from you and DD, not to mention the lack of support from the school... it's only giving her the go ahead to keep behaving like this.

Also, what is your daughter going to do in future life when she gets into dispute with collegues at work or at college? Call her mum? Call the police? Or deal with the fallout.

Completely opening myself up to abuse here, but genuinely interested to hear your response.

Vallhala · 28/06/2010 22:15

Might be an idea too to pop into the Education part of MN and direct them to this thread. I'm pretty damn sure that sadly our DDs are far from alone and others on that part of the site might have some good advice.

The HE part is excellent too, there are a lot of very caring, wise and non-judgmental ladies on there.

expatinscotland · 28/06/2010 22:21

This wasn't a dispute, Flook. This was someone physically assaulting her at school.

The girl, understandably, doesn't want to go back to school with the other person there because the other person punched her in the face and took out a chunk of her lip.

This girl also has a learning disorder characterised by motor skill immaturity and other social traits.

She needs an advocate right now, not to be told, 'Sort it out yourself' and fed to the lions.

expatinscotland · 28/06/2010 22:23

Great posts, Val.

FlookCrow · 28/06/2010 22:26

Of course not, I understand your point completely.

But I was wondering if it was an option.

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