Should children stop playing in the back garden after say 8.30pm?

[Owlingate]

You know most people don't let them out in the morning until 8am or 9am at the weekend? Does the same apply for the evening? Mine are trying to sleep in the back bedroom and next door's four year old is yelling and banging her toys on the concrete...

I do tend to get unreasonably annoyed about things disturbing my children's sleep but would I BU to ask the parents to keep her quiet? she should be in bloody bed

Just so not by stealth - we live in really small terraced houses so can hear every noise in every room not just back garden.

Not just because the law says so, because it suits me and mine, and its legal, and the neighbours are free to do the same without question.

There are things they can do if they dont like it, move, double glazing, swap bedrooms, stay up later and enjoy the summer, join in? anything they like really, and so long as its within the law thats fine with me.

yes alaska, childrens noise is not coverd by them though so haha, kids, go be kids and play whilst mummy supervises (mumsnets from iphone )

oh because it suits "YOU" and yours...........what about other people around you?

FFS what the fuck happened in this country than common courtesy and manners have gone out of the f*cking window and it's all ME ME ME.

Personally I prefer to teach my children a little consideration to people around me, and teach them that their wants and wishes and preferences aren't THE most important thing in the world........

I live in a terraced house tocc and there are children on either side of us

I just don't spray my bloomers with self-righteous indignation every time one of them kicks a football into the fence or shouts at his brother

common courtesy needs to be coupled with common sense - we live in a busy family neighbourhood and I dont expect my neighbours to pussyfoot around me

and I have no intention of pussyfooting around them

I don't give a damn with noise during normal hours - but I think that in the evenings consideration should be given - especially later "evening" (which during winter would be called "night").

Anyhow - I think common sense says there's no NEED for children to banging and yelling at gone 8.30 in the evening on a regular basis and that not everyone else (even those of us with children of our own - that can out shriek the entire street during the day ) want to be hearing noise from children until the time that WE go to bed

right - my DS's are going to be moaning at me now - supposed to be off to the chippy instead I'm getting all indignant at a bunch of strangers on the internet

Sorry tocca, it was abit tongue in cheek, hence the big grins, but yes, iam more botherd about me and mine, in my own garden with my children and my pets, thats all im really botherd about at that time. I can here noise from the gardens around me, im not in the minority, sitting in the garden in early evening whilst my kids giggle away is lovely and i wont be stopping because other people dont like it, im not doing anything wrong, why are we so aginst kids in this country, since when does children playing = unsuitable noise.

Also how crap is your double glazing, once im inside i can barely hear anything outside, turn the telly up, put a radio on for the kids, its the great british summer, it only lasts a fortnight

but there is no NEED for the children to be shut inside when they could be playing out either

it's not about NEED, it's about common sense and being realistic

I like hearing my neighbours' children play, tbh. I like children, and I like the freedom they have and the fact that we don't live next door to stuffy twats who think they have a right to control everyone else for their own comfort

oh other peoples kids are fecking annoying though

Alaska i copmpletley agree but only when they are face to face, when i cant see them i dont mind

other people are fecking annoying full stop

but it's tough shit

you can't go around dictating to people

of course people let their kids play out in their own gardens

get used to it or fucking move

'its the great british summer, it only lasts a fortnight '

exactly BE, I'd much rather hear children outside chalking on pavements etc then inside on their Wiis watching flat screen TV like they do the rest of the year.

And if both parents work and don;'t get home until 7pm (like my niehgbours) , I understand why they let their children play in the garden a bit later, having been stuck in after school care all afternoon.

Don't worry about it. If your kids are tired enough they will sleep through any noise.

I don't have double glazing at the front, and the doors (front and back( are old wooden doors so noise comes through those too.

Plus I can hear the nei

I'd rather hear kids than someone else's damn music or party.

there are often children playing outside here till late
i do think that when the usual custom is for children to sleep in the evenings, that it is selfish to let your children make a lot of noise very close to other families' houses every evening
i'd find it irritating if you did DIY every single evening too, or had a party every evening

it's just nice to be able to relax in peace at the end of the day - obviously people have their own lives to live, but when it is EVERY evening it's thoughtless and selfish, IMO
it's hard for children to get to sleep when they can hear other children playing loudly outside, and ds1 is one of those children who does need to get to bed at a reasonable time - he won't make up the extra sleep another day as he always pops up at 6 am whatever

i don't find it difficult to stop my children from making loads of noise or playing in the garden when they wake up early
i would think it would piss off my neighbours (who sleep in later) quite a lot if i let them play their keyboard and guitar, or jump off the sofas screaming as they like to do, at 6.30 am every morning just because they are awake, and they can

Yes we expect them to go to bed early evening so we can have peace and quiet and we don't want to hear them early in the morning when they wake up either.

Normal in Spain to have small children up until 11am playing outside.

I'd rather hear a one off party or music than kids banging and yelling every night.

Just because "the law" says children's noise isn't included doesn't mean the parents have the god damn right to let them make as much noise as they want at night time.

re the after school club thing - DS1 recently complained at me that he wanted to go to the park more often after school/play outside more often (the latter he's allowed to do anyhow until a reasonable hour)......because some of his friends get to go to the park dry day after school.............transpires they're at the after school club and the option to go outside /go to the park and run around is on offer everyday.

yes but this isn't spain, and people generally go to bed earlier here

Likewise exH and his family had a shock coming ere to find people going to bed as "late" as 10 or 11pm..........as most people are in bed by then where they come from and get up very early.

School day started at 7.30am where I worked! (that was a shocker for me )

It is just a case of considering others-even young DC should start.

coming ere??? oh dear that's my northerness showing - I do of course mean here

reasonable time, thats realative though isnt it, and subjective to individual opinion. I think its reasonable for kids to play out in their own gardens after dinner until its about half hour before they'll sleep, this gives time for a bath etc. So here thats about 9.30pm. I think this time, is suitable. even in winter when the garden is lit with spot lighting i see no need for them to have to be inside, if they want to play outside they can. Why should a couple of houses rule over a street. Most houses my way have no problem with this, i assume from this that a few do, but they've never said.

i dont get why you need absolute peace from when your children go to bed till when you do. This seems excessive!

oh i hate the " well in YOORP " argument

perhaps that's because it's the only time I get any peace??? 14 1/2hrs of children's noise is quite long enough thank you very much.

in YOORP - wtf is that????

Europe
its not Europe
we dont liek kids
we dont have siestas we dont have 6 week long paid summer holidats

and forest fires
and corrption and elegant women sipping pastis
or whatever
get over it