To think that they are not porn stars in the making?

[kreecherlivesupstairs]

Just had a phone call from the mother of dd's best friend. It seems that yesterday they examined each others fanjos. Mother is concerned because her dd said she saw all the way into my dd's and she didn't sleep last night because of it. I have never noticed anything odd about my dd's fan and think this mother is over reacting. She told me as an aside that 'that is how adult film stars start you know, checking out the vagina's of others'. I will be the first to hold my hand up and say dd is not an angel, but, this is ridiculous isn't it? Bit more info, the OM is American and her dd is adopted and black (not that the latter has any bearing). OM is very highly strung and takes any comment as a criticism which makes the relationship dd has with her friend very fraught for me.

Why does being American have anything to do with it?? I'm American, and I would worry more if at some point, my DD and her friends DIDN'T do a little investigating...myself and most of my friends have done it...none of us are porn stars!

Yes...OM is being a little OTT...but not sure her nationality or race of child was really necessary to clarify things.

Yes, this is a hard one - DS1 went through a stage of exploration with male and female friends. Luckily, most parents were cool with it, as long as we kept an eye on things and made sure no-one was being made to do something they didn't want to do. But I could tell one was excessively (IMO) worried. You just don't know what other people's experiences around "sex" are, and it can be hard to talk about with OM.

All the same it used to worry me - thinking DS was the instigator (it was after we had the birds and bees chat)

Now found out there was loads of it going on - instigated by others. Some of it DS now feels was against his wishes. And that. for me is the main issue - totally normal to look and touch, but not under threat or dare.

Maybe reassure the OM that it is normal, but that you will keep an eye on them when in your house, and distract them if that's all they seem to be doing with their time

I'm assuming they are 6-7ish?

Sorry, apologies to all Americans, the reason I included the childs race was because dd asked me a couple of weeks ago about penis' and if they were the same colour as the persons arms. I know that she knows the insides of fan's are different, when we lived in Thailand she told me her friends was rainbow coloured.

Ahhhh. . . good old "you show me yours and I'll show you mine." Everybody does this when they're about 5ish -- your friend is totally overreacting.

Xposting, no, they are nine. She had the rainbow coloured fanjo thing when she was about 5. It is only these two girls involved as far as I know. I'll be speaking to dd when she comes home from school.

Sounds normal to me, the other mother may just not be comfortable with it. It sounds like she's not very worldly wise and certainly ignorant of the porn industry.

I would be quite upset with the OM, for referring to your dd as a future porn star! I think it is completely inappropriate and insulting- they are jsut children ffs!

TBH i think it says more about her hangups than about anything else.

I am assuming you talk to your dd about these things? I would go back to the OM and just state calmly that you think this is normal behaviour and you do provide her with enough support and rational referencing to ensure she explores in a healthy way. Perhaps add that if the OM would find it helpful you could all talk about it together, get some books or whatever.

Failing that you could just be snarky and say "I wouldn't know, you clearly seem to know a lot more about porn than I do!"

bwahahahaha @ "this is how adult film stars start". Really? And this woman is privvy to this information how exactly?

She's clearly absolutely fucking bonkers - imagine being able to peer in to the cavernous vagina of a child. How bloody strange!

I like your suggestion mystical, but I don't see her often. I do talk to DD about everything and answer her questions when they arise. OM did say she was going to phone the school because it happened behind the snack shop therefore on their property. Thank goodness I've only two more weeks of this nonsense.

"saw all the way into my dd's and she didn't sleep last night because of it."

I am sorry but this nearly made me piss myself with laughter!... the nightmares!

If the school have any sense at all they'll just ignore it.

I feel sorry for the other little girl, clearly her mother has some massive hangups about sex. Reminds of my mother

Actually the more I think about it the more pissed off I am.

What a great opportunity to tell her daughter about how beautiful vaginas are, and how proud she should be of hers. 9 is not too young to talk about reproduction and babies etc and how women have this amazing power, especially since the girl was clearly curious to begin with.

In thw words of Ina May Gaskin, if men had organs that can do all the things vaginas, can, they'd brag about it NON-STOP.

"saw all the way into my dd's and she didn't sleep last night because of it."

I was like looking into the Gates of Hell

Mwahaha Mwahaha

I really doubt she will contact the school, it is such a ridiculous thing to complain about. I imagine it could be lack of supervision but looking at another girls part? The school have better things to do.
Agree with you mystic about Ina May Gaskin.

Actually Roberto Benigni said it too in one of his old movies

No phone call from the school yet. I can't take it too seriously so fuck her. It's Friday, the sun is shiny and I have a fridge full of beer.

maybe her daughters been watching 'Teeth' and hasnt told her mum...

Get her to watch the South Park episode where the US is ravaged by an outbreak of sex addiction, and Butters becomes obesessed with bushes

"her" being the OM btw - please, don't get your dd to watch South Park.

Been out and missed a phone call from OM. Damn. Britfish what is teeth?

its a horror film about vagina dentata, fanged vagina!
all my female friends have watched it and non of my male friends have. you dont 'see' anything. the storyline at the heart of it is very uncomfortable, but the basic idea scares men so much its worth having a look.
theres a really bad scene with a gyno though!

I must check my dd more thoroughly. I'll see if I can get a copy (for me to look at) but it is unlikely in Switzerland. We tend to be able to buy long long long films about William Tell.

i will warn you, i watched it with DH and he refused to have sex with me for a week.

If I'm being perfectly honest I think it's a bit odd at 9, and also the 'seeing all the way up it' sounds a bit more than a game of show me yours and I'll show you mine.What does yoru DD say happened? .