In thinking this is the smuggest article I have ever had the misfortune to read

[mrsshackleton]

"We are so bloody marvellous and everyone else is wrong"

I've never read such a load of judgemental codswallop

Branded Winnie the Poo equipment - OMG!!

I wonder if the 22yr old mum is a mumsnetter??

The man is a twat of the highest order. He is the twat of all twats.

I had my first when I was 22 and am now 26 (still very young) How do I explain to my children that I shouldnt be their mum because they are wasted on me...
I shouldnt be, but im really offended. I feel I should justify how much I care about my children and how much thought and effort I put in to make sure they have happy childhood memories. ARgh this is how much it has riled me...

Grrrrr

So the best mothers in smug wanker journalist land are calm and placid Stepford wives who have worked through their 30s and have reached the limit of their little careers (bless) and are now going to sit around in Costa with their perfect children being perfect.

God forbid that a woman should have interests of their own or expect their child's father to take on some of the load because, after all, women in their 40s make the best mothers because they are no longer distracted by stupidly trying to be fulfilled and succesful. They have realised that their real destiny is to produce offspring and stay at home being calm and flowery while DH goes out to work.

I feel very, very ill and extraordinarily depressed by this. Have we not moved on at all?!

I found my baby at 27 stressful. If I ever have another I will still be stressed...and poor...and trying to get on with my career. It will be no different, but I will be more tired and my chances of conceiving will be reduced.

Ferret, me too. I adore my DS, and I would at any age. I want to give him a good upbringing, I want him to be happy and healthy, and to know he is so very loved. Why does my age have to be a factor in that?

What a crock of shit. I'd say he's got things completely the wrong way round. If you wait until you're older to have kids, you are more likely to have worked your way up the career ladder and feel unable to give up a decent salary and all the hard work you've invested. Older mums I know (myself included!) are much more neurotic than younger mums who, I've found, are really chilled out.

And his mum doesn't even qualify as a young mum surely - just an average aged mum!

He's a moron. His mum was right to be worried about his intellectual shortcomings.

I'm loving the slight criticism to the working mother in her 20s...

What a silly article.

What a knob.
Is it a piss take?
How mad is that hot chocolate thing?

The only way you can possibly get the motherhood thing right is to have Andrew Billen's baby.

I wonder how all the potential baby mothers this idiot knew and sized up as mating material in his younger days actually sized him up first and dismissed him out of hand before he ever even got around to thinking about how suitable they might be as the future incubators of his progeny. Bet they're all howling with laughter right now.

By UnquietDad Mon 07-Jun-10 20:18:30
He will be shagging a 21-year-old in three years' time.

And she will be on here:

"OMG I thought DH was perfect sob sob sob"

Actually snorted at that.

yanbu. how intensley patroinising he is/was about the younger nct mum. wtf to they all know? perhaps the bedroom set was a gift from family or similar. and so the 6 week old ingested an atom or two of hot chocolate??big effing deal.

on the3 whole though its an article about nothing!! he cant even prove his point!!

What's wrong with the hot chocolate thing I do dislike excessive use of Pinnie the Wooh baby stuff though.

I knew this was going to be about the Billen thing. I read it at the weekend and waved it under DH's nose in a fury several times.

This in particular made me spit:

"Only last Monday we met a woman ? although she looked barely older than a girl ? in the park who had three children, aged, she boasted, 1, 2 and 3. She had wanted to get it ?over with? as soon as possible. Naturally, she told us about three times, she had ?help?. Of course, she was back at work. We couldn?t but think that had she waited ten years her work would have appeared less vital or, at least, she would have felt confident enough to take a year or three out of it. That would have allowed her a little more time to enjoy little One, Two and Three."

I wonder if he has taken a year or three out, at the ripe age of 52, or is that just for the women?

Yes, TFM. That paragraph is vile, the vilest of a vile article.

And lol at "We couldn?t but think that had she waited ten years her work would have appeared less vital or, at least, she would have felt confident enough to take a year or three out of it". Because at 40 you don't really need to pay the bills anymore...

"We couldn't help but think " is such a passive aggressive term

Yes, you could help but think it if you were less pleased with yourself and condemning of others

Yes I loved the way he slipped in a bit of working mother bashing while he was at it.

Okay the whole article is complete tosh, obviously

But I think he has a point about Winnie the Pooh, even though he can't spell Winnie the Pooh

What Disney did to WtP is nothing short of unforgiveable and any parent sporting those Disney Pooh things does deserve to be judged and found wanting. Whatever their age.

Urgh, that article is sick making.

its not that you dont have to pay bills anymore franca, its just that once a woman reaches 40 she will grow out of the silly fantasy of having a career and financial independance and will have come to terms with the fact that she'll never be as sucesful as her husband so may as well just become a baby making machine.

absolutely disgusting. heather's comment says all i want to say.

By MrsGravy Mon 07-Jun-10 20:42:12

"His mum was right to be worried about his intellectual shortcomings."

PMSL

lifeissweet and foureleve you are SO SO right.

Of course foureleven, but I find it even more offensive, thinking that people often need to work, regardless of their personal "vocation" (to quote him ) to success....

sexist misogynistic pig hope his wife breaks his cock

... Bilge-en?

oh I dunno. maybe if I was 40 I'd be more relaxed and able to come up with a better one.

Bell End?

ha.