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AIBU?

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to be a bit annoyed at the nursery over this

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cassell · 25/05/2010 18:13

DS had his MMR a week and a half ago and at the weekend he came out in a rash which looks a bit like a measles rash. As it got worse by Sunday I (stupidly!) took him to the GP on Monday just to check and the GP said that it could be measles and just coincidence that he had the MMR (I have since read on mn that gps don't like to accept that rashes are reactions to the mmr - should have read mn first!!) so he had to report it, we have to wait for tests, keep him at home etc.

So anyway my kindly boss let me work at home yesterday/today but really need to go to the office tomorrow.

The infectious disease policy at DS' nursery says for measles (which I don't even think it is but anyway worst case scenario) they have to stay away from nursery until 4 days after the rash started and they feel well. DS is fine in himself, no temperature since last week etc and rash started on Saturday so I thought tomorrow will be the 5th day after the rash so no problem.

Well the nursery say oh no even though it doesn't say so in the policy actually we mean 4 working days not 4 days including weekends! I mean really are you more infectious because you happen to have the rash at the weekend?? They accept there is no logic to this but "it is the policy"

Am iabu to be annoyed at this stupidity?

btw if he really was ill/I thought he was infectious of course I wouldn't be wanting to send him but he is fine!

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Tee2072 · 25/05/2010 18:14

That is absolutely stupid. I didn't realize infections took the weekend off...

SoupDragon · 25/05/2010 18:16

Yes, the "working days" thing is barmy.

rubyslippers · 25/05/2010 18:17

if it doesn't say in the policy then they can't enforce it (surely)

ChunkyMonkeysMum · 25/05/2010 18:19

4 working days! I've never heard anything so ridiculous. So, if he had got the rash on Monday, he could go to nursery on Friday, but because he got it over a weekend, it's going to take longer to get over?! Sounds like they are talking out of their a*s!!

YANBU to be annoyed.

Feelingsensitive · 25/05/2010 18:22

YANBU. Is there a head office you can take this up with.

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cassell · 25/05/2010 18:23

Phew glad it's not just me!

chunkymonkeys - that's what I said to them (well not the a*s bit ) and they said "well I can see where you're coming from but that's the policy"....

rubyslippers - I guess I could try and insist but I had a long argument with the manager about it and she wasn't budging and tbh I don't want to really annoy them

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overmydeadbody · 25/05/2010 18:23

That is ridiculous.

Take him in tomorrow. See if they can actually do anything to enforce it.

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cassell · 25/05/2010 18:25

no head office - it's an independent. I do know one of the directors though so may take it up with her. DH is having to try and take tomorrow off so we'll prob be ok this time but it's just so ridiculous it got me so annoyed!

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rubyslippers · 25/05/2010 18:25

but the manager is being ridiculous

it is NOT in their policy, therefore they cannot enforce it

it is nonsensical

do you think the manager has got the wrong end of the stick?

thesecondcoming · 25/05/2010 18:28

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cassell · 25/05/2010 18:28

tbh ruby I'm not sure how she could have as she's not (usually but I'm beginning to wonder!) stupid and I really did go through it very simply indeed...

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niftyfifty · 25/05/2010 18:30

Seems to me you have highlighted a flaw in their interpretation of the policy which they probably recognise - the "well I can see where you're coming from" response - but they just don't want to admit they're wrong.

It's completely ridiculous - I work with young children and our policy states, for example, that children who have diarrheoa (sp??) and/or vomiting must stay away until 48 hours has passed since the last bout. If they are ill on a Friday, the 48 hours can't start from the Monday FGS!

If he is fine in himself (as you say he is) there is no reason why he should be home any longer. If it causes you real problems I would speak to the Manager again and if she persists I would think about making a complaint. Good luck!

SoupDragon · 25/05/2010 18:31

They can enforce it - they can simply refuse to take your child.

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cassell · 25/05/2010 18:33

thesecondcoming - the rash is fading and no other symptoms but if the infectious period was say 5 days or 6 days or whatever then fine I'd just accept that he couldn't go, it's the working days bit that has got to me!

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mamatomany · 25/05/2010 18:38

Maybe they mean 4 nursery days which I can see their point, some children cannot have the MMR

Seona1973 · 25/05/2010 18:39

it is quite common to get a rash in response to the measles part of the MMR and the resulting rash is not contagious. From the NHS website:

If my child develops a mild case of measles after receiving their first MMR vaccine, are they contagious to non-vaccinated children? No. Post-vaccination symptoms are not infectious, so your child will not pass anything on to non-vaccinated children.

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cassell · 25/05/2010 18:53

seona - thanks for the link. I think the problem is that as the gp won't accept that is the most likely explanation and says it could be actual measles (but the tests seem to take weeks to find out what it actually is) then the nursery have to treat it as if it is measles...

mamatomany - what difference is there between nursery days and working days though? If by nursery days you mean the days ds actually goes then that would end up even more nonsensical as he only goes 3 days a week so that would be total of 10 days from when the rash actually started

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olderandwider · 25/05/2010 18:54

You know what? I think "working days" has now completely replaced the word "days" in just about every official terms and conditions type document you or I will ever read. It's like a virus.
Someone has drawn up the nursery policy and before anyone can say "commonsense" the words "working" and "days" have been typed together, because that's what you always write in anything official.

Good luck with getting the numpties to change their policy

susiey · 25/05/2010 19:03

my dd got 'fake ' measles from the mmr it appeared about 10 days after. she was fine just had to put cammomile on her till the rash went away.
The GP said it was reaction to the jab and she was not infectous so he should be fine to be at nuresery anyway.

but the four working day rule is really silly!

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cassell · 25/05/2010 19:08

susiey - that's interesting our gp said not to put anything on it, did the cammomile work?

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mumbar · 25/05/2010 19:23

eh?? As an early years practitioner I have never heard of the working days rule. We go by 'days' in our nursery/early yrs dept. it's a specialschool so hse children with heart/lung/stomach and very complicated medical issues which makes them vunerable. So we are hot on the infection period rules. If a child has d&v bug on a friday they can come to school on monday and we have to trust the parents that it stopped on the saturday of thats what they said.

I would check that if a child had chicken pox on a friday the nursery would count the whole next week mon-fri as exclusion as it has a 5 day exclusion rate. If they are counting the weekend here as they have seen the child with the onset I would definatly question it.

best of luck

susiey · 28/05/2010 16:57

well she just seemed quite itchy and wriggly and cammomile cream ( rather than lotion) seemed to help a little!

diddl · 28/05/2010 17:02

I thought with vaccinations you were always told that a rash was a possible side effect.

PrivetDancer · 28/05/2010 17:05

The the working days part is actually so ridiculous it's quite funny (although I can see why you're not laughing)

My dd got a rash after her mmr, I was told when she had the jab that it's a good sign if she does as it means she is developing an immune response. I didn't even consider mentioning it to the nursery.

agedknees · 28/05/2010 17:33

What happens on Bank Hols?? Does nursery still not take that day into account?

Nursery policy is mad.

YANBU.

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