to wonder who Oliver James is? working mothers look away!

[Chulita]

Here Sorry if there's a thread on it already, I just read this and was a bit

Ohbugger - Freud would have an absolute field day with that, I'd imagine!

Wondering how many posters on this thread are working mothers?

He really is a prick.

I don't understand your point rollmops

I would like to see his 'overwhelming' evidence but strangely he never actually cites any...

Everytimr stuff like this comes up I just think " hope your book sells" and tra pals

He's obviously having trouble finding evidence. I blame his mum

Oliver James is full of shite. ANd I am a SAHM. Lot of misogynistic shite.

I find it strange that he doesn't even attempt to caveat his opinions with "of course I am not personally a WOHM.." or anything remotely suggestive of having a clue. I've got a 95 year old step-father-in-law who can drum up out-of-date opinions and cite them as facts, could we pay him instead of this knob? I actually like that guy and can see why he's so out of touch

One of the comments under that article claims he thinks ADHD is caused by the mother being stressed in the third trimester. Um ok, dont ever recall my DS's Psych mentioning that one

This thread contains some pretty underwhelming rebuttal, IMHO.

Calling the guy a knob, or speculating upon his penis size, does little to discredit his arguments.

I don't agree with all of the arguments raised (can only comment on the article as I haven't read the book), but I do think he actually makes some valid points.

you can trust a man with two first names as a full name
think of tony blair for eg

The Times article is the one that details his claims that ADHD is caused by women being stressed in the third trimester also.

I echo maswera. He can fuck the fuck off...

People like him are very dangerous. Folk read his bullshit and believe it.

'One of the comments under that article claims he thinks ADHD is caused by the mother being stressed in the third trimester.'

I was majorly fucking stressed in the 3rd trimester

So now I have to worry in case my son has AHAD now

Except that Oliver James is a misoygynistic knobboid so I won't take any notice of that. I feel sorry for his mum, that her son obviously thinks so little of her parenting skills

Second what Maswera said.

WAHM here!

I dont think he's actually against working mothers. He just says that nannies/childminders are better for v young children than nurseries.

Wouldn't most working mothers agree with this? I mean if we could all afford nannies for our under 1's or maybe under 2's wouldn't we use them instead of a busy day nursery?

Personally, I think nurseries are great for 2yrs+ but not so much for the babies.

The Guardian article appears a little at odds compared with the Telegraph one. It's almost sensible (apart from the fact that many women with children work with no great angst, and probably always have done.

Well I'm glad to see that my adoption of the "separate lives" approach to work and home (the one that most men adopt perfectly successfully) is only problematic because of mobiles and emails (easy solution, minimize how much you look at work emails/phone calls at home - the occasional call from home to work has never caused me any problems, and most people I know seem to be capable of this). Is the only approach that isn't apparently deeply flawed. I don't know why a "compete" denial is required in any case, it's just a matter of focus, something most of us do all the time, whether we have children or not.

The amusing line in the other article was the "I really don't want to make life more difficult. I'm really trying to make it easier." I wonder how this is so - does he perhaps pop around to stressed households and offer that one to one loving care?

"He says that young children "need to be in the presence of a responsive, loving adult at all times""

Well that´s mine fücked then, even though I´m a SAHM!

forever I don't think that is what he is saying, or at least that is a very small part of it. I had a nanny for my two when they were pre-nursery age, and it was a wonderful luxury (for me, by far the least stressful of all our childcare arrangements) but it's not a very realistic expectation for everyone, as it is also the most expensive option (although it gets more economical the more children you have). How many child minders have less than three children in their care, as that's the ratio he is saying is a problem for nurseries?

I have a childminder who is one-one one with my DD some of the time, depending on the days/times. Only very rarely is the ration 1-3. I know this isn't typical, though. At least with the childminder the adult is consistant throughout the day as opposed to nursery where 4+ people were looking after my DS during the course of the day.

OJ went to boarding school
IMVHO this is behind his preoccupation with 1:1 care

What are his views on families with more than one child anyway? Surely from number two onwards there is no one on one attention anymore. Twins probably are doomed from the start.

What a twunt.