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AIBU?

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or is my daughter being discriminated against.

51 replies

4kidsandlovingit · 11/05/2010 11:14

I`m so pissed off. (and this is really long)

DD1 (12 in July) is in yr 7 at school. Her school does what they call accelerated reading where each pupil has too read a book (from the school library or home) and then pass a series of questions on said book before moving on to the next.
DD has been a complete pain in the arse when it comes to reading and just about anything I have sugested has been met with its boring, Ive seen the film etc etc. Anyway during Easter holidays I found a book by an author called Kevin Brooks. He writes teen books and there is some swearing etc in them but nothing that I thought was too much for DD to understand or read about. She read this book through in couple of days and raved about it so much she bought herself two more of his books. Full reserch was done and reveiws of books read and Im fully aware of the content etc etc.
Anyway last Tuesday DD1, having completed the 2nd of his books, asks at school if she can do the accelerated reading test on this book. The Librarian tells her no. On Wednesday DD1s english teacher tells her to ask again if she can do the test. Again she is told no it is a yr8 book and she is yr7. DD explains that she has read the book from home to which she was told you shouldnt have read it. I come home from school run to find DD in tears that she is not allowed to do the test because she is in the wrong year group. I then wrote a letter to Librarian explaining my dissapointment that she wont let her take the test even though she has fininshed the book. Yesterday I recieved a reply from Librarian stating that the book has a reading age guide of 14 (i know this), a printed copy of the synopsis of the book (I know what it is about) and stating that she has a responsibility to students and when yr8s wish to read the book she clears it with their parents first (fine by me)and a list of all books DD has taken test on since last September but DD still cannot take the test until September. In my eyes my DD is now being dascriminated against because she is in the wrong year group. Im not asking the Librarian to lend the book to her she has it and has read it. Im well aware of its content and if I wasnt happy with it I would not have allowed DD to read it. But surely having already read the book she should be allowed to be tested on it. FFS she wants to take the test.
On top of all this on the list of books that DD has read since being in year 7 is Captain Underpants which has a guide age of 7+. When I ask DD why she read it she said it was boring but really easy. I ask you is there any hope for a school that will let take a test on a book that is 4 years younger than her age but not 2 years older. How is letting an 11 yr old read Captain underpants going to help her education? So AIBU to think that as DD has put the effort into reading this book she should be allowed to take the test on it or not? Surely if the school has that much of an issue that they have to check with the parents of yr 8s first then they shouldn`t have to book in their Library in the first place. But it is only a guide line not set in stone!!!!!!!!!!

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mumblechum · 11/05/2010 11:17

Oh good grief I find it hard to believe that the school actively tries to hold children back from reading possibly above their age level.

It's absolutely ridiculous and I would certainly say something.

It's as if they're trying to keep everyone down to the level of the lowest common denominator.

If the school don't help I'd just totally bypass their ridiculous system.

DS is at Grammar and they read what they want when they want. Most of the yr 7s at his school would be assessed with a reading age of 16, that's what he & his mates all were when they left primary.

TheFallenMadonna · 11/05/2010 11:20

They aren't allowed to take a book out of the school library until they've passed a test on the previous one? Or is this part of English, or what?

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 11/05/2010 11:22

At your daughter's age, I was reading books from the Adult section of the library (Adult as in for grownups, not X-rated), and my parents considered that this was a good thing - I was able to read and comprehend well above my age. It seems ludicrous that your daughter is being penalised for reading in advance of her age group. If she'd read Jane Eyre, or To Kill a Mockingbird, would the school still have this daft attitude, or would they be praising her for reading something intellectually challenging?

The school should be encouraging her reading, not discouraging her!

4kidsandlovingit · 11/05/2010 11:23

Well the tests on the books happen during english class but there is no way they would have let her take this book out because it is the yr8 section and she still has a few weeks to go until she is there herself.
Because it in the yr8 section the Librarian wont let her take the test regardless of the fact that Ive okayed her reading it and she bought it herself with my blessing. Im beginning to wonder if I have any rights as a parent!

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gagamama · 11/05/2010 11:24

I don't think it's discrimination per se, but the librarian is definitely being unreasonable and inflexible. You are not asking the librarian to allow your DD to read the book, she has already read it with your approval, so the fact she has a 'responsibility to students' (to ensure they aren't exposed to inappropriate material, I assume) is absolutely irrelevant.

The only thing I can think of is that they have set questions on each book, and the questions on this book are tailored towards year 8 and the relevant curriculum. That doesn't explain why Captain Underpants is available to Year 7 children though.

Hullygully · 11/05/2010 11:24

Mad as fuck

homebirthmummy4 · 11/05/2010 11:27

write to the head

TheBride · 11/05/2010 11:29

That's insane. I wouldnt say it's "discrimination". It's just a really really stupid policy.

A lot of 12 year olds only read adult fiction at that age.

I would bypass the jobsworth librarian and go straight to the english teacher and complain.

It's yet another example of the British state education system championing mediocrity- "know your place child". You can bet your life that Captain Underpants is not on the list at Eton. Sigh.

compo · 11/05/2010 11:30

Definitely write to the head

minipie · 11/05/2010 11:32

The school is being ridiculous, just plain ridiculous.

I remember a similar thing happening at my junior school - the library books were categorised for age group and we weren't allowed to take out books of a higher age group than we were in. I wanted to take out a Roald Dahl book (in an "older" category than my age) and wasn't allowed even though I'd already read it at home, could describe the story, etc. Teacher wouldn't believe I could possibly have already read it as it was "too hard" and "her kids hadn't read it yet so I couldn't possibly have".

Mental.

ImSoNotTelling · 11/05/2010 11:32

How disheartening for your DD.

Appalling.

4kidsandlovingit · 11/05/2010 11:32

I am currently fomulating my response but I dont want it to turn into a letter writing competition, Im thinking more along the lines of requesting a meeting, just wanted to make sure Im not being unreasonable about this.
Gagamama that is my point, her responsibility and the recommendid age are entirely irrelevant, she has the read the book and enjoyed it (very rare occurance for her) so in my eyes she should be praised and encourage for reading in her own time and not penalised because her area of interest is above her age.

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ImSoNotTelling · 11/05/2010 11:33

On the upside she has found an author she likes, and is reading.

So if the school dig their heels in I'd say to her the truth, ie they are being ridiculous, but nothing to stop her reading things she enjoys at home.

ConnorTraceptive · 11/05/2010 11:35

Oh FFS please write to the head or better see him/her in person. What a ridiculous policy.

If they refuse to change the policy take your dd to your local librar and let her choose her own books and quite frankly tell the school to poke it!

muddleduck · 11/05/2010 11:36

I would emphasize that you feel it is important to foster a love of reading by encouraging your dd to choose to read books that she enjoys and that you feel that it would be counterproductive to force her to read books that she is not motivated to enjoy.

lilredinjun · 11/05/2010 11:39

YABNU - I would also take the book list prescribed for year 7 with you to the meeting and explain that there are few books which she finds appealing but that to show you are being reasonable and willing to work with the school to encourage reading, perhaps a compromise could be reached whereby for every year 8 book read she also reads a year 7 book

VeronicaCake · 11/05/2010 11:40

YANBU and I can't believe this is going on in a secondary school. I remember completing the reading scheme at primary school far too early, and the only solution my class teacher could come up with was for me to keep re-reading the hardest book in the series for an entire term. I was 7 so too gormless to question this but as a result I can still recite large chunks of 'The sodding Pine Tree That Went To Sea' by heart. Not a very useful life skill unfortunately.

angel886 · 11/05/2010 11:44

The age guide on play.com for most of his books is 11...

ScreaminEagle · 11/05/2010 11:51

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OrganicHairbrush · 11/05/2010 11:54

WTF and what a mindless, jaw-droppingly stupid policy of the school!

How about letting the school sod off and devising your own home reading project? Setting up a system between DD and you that for every book she reads and enjoys and cant talk about intelligently you plant a flower together, or something similar.

Anything DD reads at home will improve her literacy and help her in her written work and unltimately boost her GCSE performance. And Once DD has left school nobody will care what she read in Year 7.

BTW my niece is in year 3 and reading Captain Underpants ...

OrganicHairbrush · 11/05/2010 11:55

Ooop. That's can talk about intelligently...

Hassled · 11/05/2010 11:58

Agree this is barking, barking mad. What do they do re the Gifted and Talented kids? Speak to the Head - if you're still not happy, speak to the Governors.

menopausemad · 11/05/2010 12:03

What a load of rubbish. It is way more important to foster an enthusiasm for reading. Either challenge with the Head or tell your daughter to ignore them. I would prefer the latter having got into a right pickle having told my son he could ignore school staff on one issue...which rapidly spread to others!

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 11/05/2010 12:10

Veronica - "The Sodding Pine Tree That Went To Sea" sounds very advanced for a primary school.

haggisaggis · 11/05/2010 12:14

So it is the school librarian who won't let her take the test on that book and not teh teacher? Seems really odd. Can't the teacher intervene?