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Original poster

to think that two bottles of wine per person is not that much?

129 replies

Rosieeo · 01/05/2010 09:00

Following on from a conversation with a friend last night. Friend A had about six glasses of wine from 7 till 11, plus dinner, plus lots of nibbles, chat and general unwinding, then went home. Once she'd gone, friend B (still waiting for taxi) said something along the lines of 'OMG, can you believe how much juice she shipped tonight?'

I had noticed, but only because of the empties. Between the four of us, we went through about 6 bottles of wine, but I had bought 8, because I always over buy on food and booze; a kind of better too much than too little thing.

So what do you think? Is two bottles of wine too much? I had about 3/4 glasses, so about a bottle, but I'm sure I've drank more and not been disgusted with myself!

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jemart · 01/05/2010 15:51

Far too much.
I drank two bottles of wine once before - I can't really remember much of that evening and had a truly dreadful hangover the next day.
Not an experience I wish to repeat.

skihorse · 01/05/2010 16:07

YABU

It's a huge amount - more than I drink in a year.

AnnieLobeseder · 01/05/2010 16:12

I'd be unconcious on 1 bottle. 2 bottles is a crazy amount to be drinking, especially if it's a regular thing. Very unhealthy and potentially dangerous.

ShinyAndNew · 01/05/2010 16:18

On my birthday last Monday my sisters bought 4 litres of cherry Lambrini (I don't like 'proper wine), 2 bottles of Jaques cider and a bottle of rose.

My youngest sister and I decamped to her house for Vodka when the booze had ran out

I don't drink like that regularly though.

NoahAndTheWhale · 01/05/2010 16:20

For me one bottle would be a pretty large amount. Would expect to be rather more drunk than is pleasant on that amount. Two bottles definitely much too much.

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WebDude · 01/05/2010 16:26

Normally I would say "sorry for depressing you" but in this case, if you drink like that every fortnight, you perhaps are "pickling your liver".

Surely you've read the reports of young (early 20s) women getting drunk on a regular (weekly) basis and having affected their livers so they are like those of someone almost twice their age.

It is one thing to have a good time, but surely not to continue to a level you know is definitely bad for you?

Set yourself a test - go for a month without any alcohol at all. Just see it as a way to show you don't need it.

If you feel you have no problem, then a month without will do you no harm (I can go 6+ months without anything alcoholic, but that's as much because of lack of finances as any lack of need, and yes, I know the cheapest cider is in the supermarket, but I prefer Baileys, or some nicer cider, or Southern Comfort, etc).

Afterwards, don't go mad with 2 bottles, but a half bottle as a reward.

If you feel that you are really missing it, then you need to consider it a problem, IMO.

Can see your point about question over everyone doing "nothing" that might be considered a risk (and I personally don't think I'd bother with mountain climbing etc) but do think you may well regret it... Could you not put some of the cash spent on booze away for a wonderful world tour to look forward to instead? (or would that "once in a lifetime" trip be overshadowed by drinking a whole bottle every other week as you consider the travel and sightseeing "boring" by comparison with some drink every fortnight ?)

WebDude · 01/05/2010 16:34

You've seen the concensus, it's really down to you now. Feel free to denounce us as judgemental or wimps or spoilsports, of course, if you wish, but it does seem a good thing you asked, and good one friend commented, as it seems like you could have been lulled into thinking it quite normal and obviously that's not the case - though perhaps if the thread had started at 9pm not 9am, more who regularly drink as much might have posted on the thread, to "balance" the views

My last comment on MN.

warthog · 01/05/2010 16:39

far too much. i cater for 0.5 bottles of wine per person and always have leftovers.

NorbertDentressangle · 01/05/2010 16:46

1 bottle and I'd be very drunk, possibly sick and would definitely have the hangover from hell the next day, hence the fact that half/three-quarters is my maximum limit.

I don't think I could drink 2 bottles TBH.

Original poster
Rosieeo · 01/05/2010 17:57

Sorry, still LMAO off at WebDude's implication that I'm some kind of mad alchi who appreciates nothing in life aside from a boozing session every fortnight

I understand you're not commenting again but I feel I must ask - did you even read my posts? Anyway, thank you for your detailed, albeit amazingly patronising, self-important post.

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Oenopod · 01/05/2010 18:13

Bear in mind that when the recommended units were established the average alcohol content of a wine was 10-12% abv. Now more often than not, most wines (especially the cheap Aussie and California shite) are verging towards 14% if not higher.

High sugar levels, therefore high alcohol levels are an easy way to make wine more palatable to the average palate.

Two bottles in one night (and I've done it) is seriously way too much for anyone, let alone a woman - we are physiologically unable to cope with the same amount of alcohol as a man is.

And the rise in cirrhosis of the liver amongst women in their 30s (and younger) should be a warning to us all.

I go for quality rather than quantity. Spend more money on one bottle of decent wine rather than those shitty 3 bottles for a tenner deals. You don't want to know the kind of shit that goes into those bottles - I've worked in wineries and it ain't pretty.

expatinscotland · 01/05/2010 18:25

Have you spoken to Friend A? Bet she's feeling dog rough!

The old me would have gotten through two bottles in a night.

But again, that was about 10 years ago since I've done something like that.

croft64 · 27/06/2010 22:08

i can do 2 to 3 bottles of wine in a night but realised what damage it may do. i now have a partner who drinks 2 to 3 bottles of wine a night, 7 nights a week and i just can not get him to see what damages he is doing to his health, both mentally and physically as well as the damage he is doing to our relationship, we have been trying for a baby since we met 4 years ago and he just can not see thaqt the amount he drinks may be the cause of the problem. He already has a son who is 15 next month byt was fenied access to till he was 14 as the mum was already married and did not want a scandalwith her family being cathlic.would love some advice if any one can help

smokinaces · 27/06/2010 22:19

Oh god, I must be an alki then

I can do a bottle alone quite easily. Last Saturday night between 3 of us and karaoke (I know, I know) we sunk more than 5 bottles.

And I'm the lightest drinker of the group!

minibmw2010 · 27/06/2010 22:23

Where is the "2 bottles of wine" coming from? The OP mentions that there were 4 people and 6 bottles were drunk, that isn't 2 bottles per person. It sounds to me like everyone had pretty much the same (probably about 1 to 1.5 bottles each) so I don't understand why friend B feels the right to judge any of them to be honest. 4 large glasses over 4 hours is pretty easy to do .. especially with food and nibbles. As long as this isn't an everynight occurrence then I think we can stop all the judging.

funnysinthegarden · 27/06/2010 22:26

YANBU. Tis fine as a one off, and very easy to do once you get chatting. Don't expect most folk to agree with you though.

Have you ever asked 'should I have a glass of champs at Christmas even though I am pregnant' on Pregnancy?

Most folk on mumsnet these days seem to think that alcohol is the devils work!

funnysinthegarden · 27/06/2010 22:27

judging seems to me to be what mumsnet 2010 do the best. Not like that back in the day..............

clemettethedropout · 27/06/2010 22:33

Rosieeo, genuine question, but why do you think there are recommended levels? Alcohol is a psychoactive drug, responsible for 33,000 deaths a year. If a man drank four bottles of wine a week he would double his chances of liver disease, high blood pressure and liver disease for example. Two in one night is dangerous.

I hope that by the time my children are older, the risks of alcohol will be taken as seriously as the risks of cigarettes.

Remotew · 27/06/2010 22:38

I can drink a bottle to myself and still be OK. I would be drunk off a bottle and a half and would be very drunk, probably at the don't remember stage and very ill the next day off 2 bottles. Not pleasant so I wouldn't do it.

Snobear4000 · 27/06/2010 22:44

Two bottles of Gato Negro or Fish Hoek is WAY too much.

Two bottles of decent Amarone or a d'Arenberg Dead Arm Shiraz is of course, not a problem.

funnysinthegarden · 27/06/2010 22:47

oooh not tried d'Arenburg Dead Arm Shiraz.......their Moneyspider Rousanne is very nice though!

Does depend in a way what you drink. Good wine does not give you a hangover and so has much to recommend it

scanty · 28/06/2010 00:46

It's an awful lot. 1 bottle makes me quite giddy and a possible hangover. I have drunk outrageous amounts in the past on a night outs but it was ALWAYS too much. Still sometimes drink way too much - know I shouldn't so not being judgemental but doesn't change the fact that 2 bottles is too much.

scanty · 28/06/2010 00:48

croft64

do you really think your partner will be good father material if he continues to drink like this? He sounds like he has a serious problem.

PotPourri · 28/06/2010 00:50

I think it's quite a lot. 1 bottle each is fine. 2 is quite alot. I guess it depends how often you are doing it really